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Entry into HiFi cans: For all kinds of music HD595 or HD580? Alternatives?

post #1 of 48
7/22/06 at 11:17am
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If someone loves all kinds of music with good sound-stage and accurate reproduction ( Including classical music), what is the best entry point?

HD595?
HD580?
Alternatives?

The budget is sub-200$ and amped of course!

List your opinion.
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post #2 of 48
7/22/06 at 11:33am
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Originally Posted by kaushama
If someone loves all kinds of music with good sound-stage and accurate reproduction ( Including classical music), what is the best entry point?

HD595?
HD580?
Alternatives?

The budget is sub-200$ and amped of course!

List your opinion.
I've had my pre-2005 DT 880's for about 36 hours now, so just started burning in, but they meet your criteria and I think i would pick them over 595's. The first 10 songs of jazz and rock I listened with them, i said "Whoa, these are derriere-kicking"

Irrelevant question: Is there some category for most first responses? Like a First Responder Certification?
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post #3 of 48
7/22/06 at 11:33am
hd595
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post #4 of 48
7/22/06 at 11:39am
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I have heard many good things about Bayer DT 880 too. But some say it colours a sound bit and lacks the punch in Bass!
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post #5 of 48
7/22/06 at 11:43am
I have a pair of 580's, and they're great for classical. If you stretch your buget by a few dollars, or look around the FS forums, you could probably pick up a pair of HD600's for around 200 used.
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post #6 of 48
7/22/06 at 11:49am
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Originally Posted by kaushama
I have heard many good things about Bayer DT 880 too. But some say it colours a sound bit and lacks the punch in Bass!
i think at $200, you're looking at pre-2005 DT880s, HD 595 and 580, SR-225, K501 new. You can stretch budget at bit to HD600, SR325i, current DT880's, K601. Of these, i think the HD600's get mentioned as "Last Cans I need to buy". This pricepoint is where i'm researching, too, i have to get myself to a meet or maybe some of these SoCal stores which demo a lotta stuff.
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post #7 of 48
7/22/06 at 11:50am
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I have seen headroom sayng that to hear the difference between 580 and 600 one needs a 1000+ $ source and amp. So will that extra mile count?
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post #8 of 48
7/22/06 at 12:13pm
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Originally Posted by kaushama
I have seen headroom sayng that to hear the difference between 580 and 600 one needs a 1000+ $ source and amp. So will that extra mile count?
I've never heard either, so i can only truthfully say that I'm at the point where i'm trying to discern what the Senn, AKG grado, beyer, Sony, ultrason, A-T house sounds are (which takes a lotta listeneing) and the 580 and 600 define Senn's house sound, where the 595's been tweaked. but a bunch of people who've been down the path get to recabled or balanced 600's and they say "Yes, this is it!"
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post #9 of 48
7/22/06 at 1:31pm
I've got the 580s, and with the home setup listed in my sig, it sounds phenomenal! I've not had any experience with the 600/650, so I couldn't tell you if it makes much difference. I would like to try them myself, to see if its worth upgrading to the 650s!
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post #10 of 48
7/22/06 at 1:40pm
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Originally Posted by kaushama
I have seen headroom sayng that to hear the difference between 580 and 600 one needs a 1000+ $ source and amp. So will that extra mile count?
I had both but my old 580's finally died so I can't remember in comparison to the 600. I am very happy with the 600 though. It is similar to the 580 as far as I remember.

In the UK it's difficult to find 580's now so I just decided on the 600. According to experts, it's slightly better and I definately find it less bassy than the 650 which I also have. I find it to be a very even sounding headphone with not too much emphasis in any particular region, which for some people may mean 'bland'.

My favourite headphone. If the price difference in USA isn't much, just as a placebo, I'd get the 600!!

Ian
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post #11 of 48
7/22/06 at 9:10pm
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HD600 is more than 200$! Have another question. I really love my Senn PX100 and KSC35. I adore my HD 497. How much of a difference can I observe when I upgrade to 580\600? I am impatiently waiting for a Xin Supermacro.
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post #12 of 48
7/22/06 at 10:28pm
You can get a used HD600 for less than $200 though, if you monitor the FS forums here. One is bound to show up sometime.
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post #13 of 48
7/23/06 at 9:26am
HD580 and hd600 have the same drivers so they should sound very much alike.
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post #14 of 48
7/23/06 at 9:59am
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Originally Posted by maarek99
HD580 and hd600 have the same drivers so they should sound very much alike.
Not quite. The drivers stayed but the housing was changed in the 600 to stop resonant frequencies. Also, the plastic grill was changed to metal and it's more acoustically 'see through' as well as visually. The 600 is made of some other material which is not plastic. (carbon fibre) Apparently, it doesn't resonate as easily as plastic and doesn't transfer sound as efficiently as plastic.

I think that it is a bargain headphone. In the UK, it is normally around £160 (300$) so $200 isn't bad.

I actually prefer it to the 650.

Ian
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post #15 of 48
7/23/06 at 12:22pm
For a first time start off, you can try the Goldring DR150.

They've got an excellent price-to-performance ratio
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