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post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
What do you guys think of this? I have a couple HDCD's in my collection, but never got to hear them on the playback equipment. Was there much of a difference?

Is this technology dead, or is it destined for more widespread use? Has superior recording technology killed it?
post #2 of 15
It's dead. Music downloading is the now/future. Hard media is living its last days.

Edit: I have never formally compared Redbook to HDCD.
post #3 of 15
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Originally Posted by virometal
It's dead. Music downloading is the now/future. Hard media is living its last days.

Edit: I have never formally compared Redbook to HDCD.
That doesn't answer his question; rather, you make a blanket statement about all physical media.

HDCD was nice, but was eclipsed IMO by hi-res formats like SACD and DVD-Audio.
post #4 of 15
^ You are absolutely right Doc. Well almost, he did ask itf it's dead. I swear the HDCD's I own sound a little clearer and more dynamic. However it is nothing I wouldn't write off as placebo.
post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 
Hard media will not be dead as long as the majority of the country doesn't subscribe to broadband online services.
post #6 of 15
I hope it isn't dead. I love hard media, but it doesn't look good for the home team. Data is cheaper to make than discs.

SACD and DVD-audio can offer higher sample rates than even HDCD, but those formats don't look too healthy either. SACD maintains a nice niche market with classical loving audiophiles though. If you like hard media and want high rez, it might be time to root for Blu-Ray or HD-DVD as both can offer high rez music.

And the debate as to whether high rez sounds better is endless and tends to be very subjective I might add.

All IMO of course.
post #7 of 15
BTW, I just read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCD

Pretty interesting. Wikipedia also has good articles on SACD and DVD-Audio.
post #8 of 15
The HDCD technology, originally developed by Pacific Microsonics, is now accquired by Microsoft. Since the acquisition, MS had done practically nothing in developing or promoting the format. On the other hand, The Pacific Microsonics A/D converter -- the equipment required for mastering HDCDs -- has been discontinued. To this day, new HDCDs are still being produced, but the overall picture is not hopeful.

HDCD, in the best cases, does offer sonic benefits, but it depends a lot on the skill of the recording engineer.

The debate on physical media vs bare data is another subject entirely. Speaking for myself I'd rather hold on to something solid.
post #9 of 15
I wouldn't call HDCD dead either and the fact that new CD players by Naim or Linn include the respective decoder seems a good sign. At least I hope it will be further supported as I really like the format.
post #10 of 15
When done right, the results are pretty nice. I can generally tell the difference between my HDCDs and non-HDCDs. But I do also have some regular CDs that, if I listening to for the first time and didn't know otherwise, I'd probably call HDCD, and vice versa I've got one or two HDCDs that I'd never guess were encoded differently. But more often than not, the difference is a nice improvement.

As for the future of it, who knows. A few observations though: first, that even though the A/D converter's been discontinued, they're not suddenly ceasing to exist, and there are still producers around who like to use it, even if it'll never take ordinary Redbook's place. Plus, there are a lot of HDCDs already in existance and no shortage of quality players that can decode them (and I've never heard of a player that couldn't at least play the Redbook), so even if it died out this very second, it'd be a long time before they disappeared from the market.

Even if it's not always a mind-blowing, jaw-dropping, you-haven't-heard-music-until-you've-heard-this technology, you'll rarely put an album in and wish it hadn't been HDCD encoded (unless it's made by people who don't know how to do it, and then odds are that's not the only thing they've done wrong). I'm happy I opted for a CDP that can read it.
post #11 of 15
Eh, my old HDCD player isn't on par with my new non-HDCD player, so they even sound a bit better without the HDCD decoding. HDCDs are generally very well produced and mastered, so they'll sound great on any player, really.
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by Megaptera
...and I've never heard of a player that couldn't at least play the Redbook
Makes sense, HDCD is redbook. But we know what you mean
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by Davey
Makes sense, HDCD is redbook. But we know what you mean
Yeah, what I was trying to say was that I've never heard of a non-HDCD player that has trouble reading HDCD discs. There's nothing like taking the time to word things precisely to make you sound like you don't know what you're talking about
post #14 of 15

I hope it's not dead, I really like HDCDs. I think they sound better than SACDs. I highly recommend buying an HDCD player, you will not regret it.

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post #15 of 15

Most, if not all Audio Fidelity remasters are HDCD encoded

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