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post #1381 of 1560
If your amp has "DC protection" (i.e. input caps), you don't need output caps on the DAC.

As for what could have happened, open it up and take a look - see if there are any disconnected wires or shorts, then take your DMM and check if the PCM is outputting voltage on the signal pins (before the output caps).
post #1382 of 1560
Quote:
Is there a set of troubleshooting steps I can follow?
Snag the free version of this---->

True Audio: Audio Spectrum Analyzer and Loudspeaker Design Software
(TrueRTA)

Set the signal generator to output a signal and then trace (measure) the output back to the pins on the PCM2702 with your DMM in AC mode (or oscilloscope if you have one).
post #1383 of 1560
Cheers for that. I'll get into it when I get home tonight.
post #1384 of 1560
Sorry if this info is easily found, but I looked to no avail....how large is the Alien DAC board?

This will be my first project and will be stuffing the Alien DAC along with a CMOY into this pictured enclosure, and am just hoping both will fit. There is no battery as the cmoy will be powered by a wallwart.

The enclosure is 120mm x 100mm x 45mm (L x W x H )

post #1385 of 1560
Board size: 45.4mm x 50.5mm.

(copy and pasted from the Alien DAC page which is located here----> Alien DAC - Overview )
post #1386 of 1560
ok thanks, looks like i have loads of room to play with then
post #1387 of 1560
~2.4V on CR, 0V on CL...

Chip is bust?
post #1388 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Daveze View Post
~2.4V on CR, 0V on CL...

Chip is bust?
If all the connections are good, yep. It's toast.
post #1389 of 1560
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveze View Post
~2.4V on CR, 0V on CL...

Chip is bust?
Either that or there is a short.
post #1390 of 1560
Poo.

I might wait for the gamma...
post #1391 of 1560

Need Help!

Okay so I built this right after the group buy however long ago that was and it didn't work and it got pushed to the side. Now I am ready to try and get it working and would like your help. I get the Windows error message when I plug it in. Now my SMD soldering skills are not great, but it came out okay. All voltages seem to be good. I checked all the pins on the chip with a small pick and magnifying glass and they seem to be soldered down. Maybe I have something soldered wrong.
Thanks

Here are the links, the pics are about 200k so you can see my great soldering skills up close. I can upload better shots if needed.
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post #1392 of 1560
I'm in the process of debugging my first alien dac. It seems to work OK, but its filtering out certain frequencies into the left and right channels. Most noticeable are lyrics--they only come through the right channel. Besides that, the music sounds fairly normal. During construction, I ran into some problems with C32. I put it on the top before realizing it needed to go on the bottom. I had some difficulties removing it, and it may have taken too much heat. I used it anyway as I had no backups.

If needed, I can post pictures. Looking for a place to start. Thanks.
post #1393 of 1560
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Originally Posted by Slaughter View Post
Okay so I built this right after the group buy however long ago that was and it didn't work and it got pushed to the side. Now I am ready to try and get it working and would like your help. I get the Windows error message when I plug it in. Now my SMD soldering skills are not great, but it came out okay. All voltages seem to be good. I checked all the pins on the chip with a small pick and magnifying glass and they seem to be soldered down. Maybe I have something soldered wrong.
Thanks

Here are the links, the pics are about 200k so you can see my great soldering skills up close. I can upload better shots if needed.
ImageShack - Hosting :: img1100rqd2.jpg
ImageShack - Hosting :: img1101rtv4.jpg
Well, you don't need C31, but that can't be causing the problem. I can't see anything else from here, but the pins on the PCM look a bit suspect, maybe.

One way I check mine and it seems to work OK - put one probe of your DMM on the PCM pin as it exists the chip - away from the solder joint. Then follow the trace that pin is supposed to be soldered to, and put the other probe at the end of that trace and see if you get continuity. Check it with the adjacent pins on either side and see what you get, too. If resistance is not zero, but not super-high, either - that pin is probably OK and it's not shorted with the adjacent pins. You can check all of the pins in pretty short order once you get going.
post #1394 of 1560
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Originally Posted by SmellyEagle View Post
I'm in the process of debugging my first alien dac. It seems to work OK, but its filtering out certain frequencies into the left and right channels. Most noticeable are lyrics--they only come through the right channel. Besides that, the music sounds fairly normal. During construction, I ran into some problems with C32. I put it on the top before realizing it needed to go on the bottom. I had some difficulties removing it, and it may have taken too much heat. I used it anyway as I had no backups.

If needed, I can post pictures. Looking for a place to start. Thanks.
I don't think the PCM chip can do what you describe, even if it was malfunctioning. It almost sounds as if you have the output wiring mis-wired. Yeah, pics might be helpful.
post #1395 of 1560
This was my first time doing SMD soldering, so I'm sure it could have been better. Let me know if you see any wiring mistakes or other misc problems.



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