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post #16 of 90
Hirsch,

I love this statement "There was no thought of tweaking this system anymore". More than anything esle that parrallels my experience with these cables. Since I bought mine I quit looking for amplifiers, sources or anything else. Buy more CD's is my motto (I already have 1,200 but there's always room for more). I will be buyng an SACD player though. I can't wait until the day I can finish my sytem out with the Nite speaker cables.

Your break in was a little slower and more dramatic than mine. Once, after upgradiong the power cables and the first time I used their interconnects, the sound was so bad I called Rick to complain that my interconnect sounded so awful that I could only imagine that it was busted. I couldn't figure out why my system got worse just after addding the new power cable and the interconnect. My cables had been burned in so I was expecting them to be ready to go but from what I was hearing I could only assume mine was defective. Rick said not to worry and after that we got into a fairly lengthy conversation about the cables and a million other audio related issues. Also, during that conversation he told me the cables were directional and that the direction was the same as the direction that they ran a voltage through them during the burn in period. They are supposed to be marked for direction now but in those days they were not. In fact, in those days, (only a few months back) the Nites were still pretty new, the Speed of Light Tech was extremly new and the burn in system was still new. It turned out that my cables were installed in the right direction so I never changed them but during the conversation with Rick I thought this might be part of the problem.

Anyhow, after talking with Rick for about an hour I planned to leave my system run for the rest of the night and the following day while I was at work and then give it another listen but as I passed through he room where the stereo was I was shccked at how much my system had improved in the time I had talked with Rick on the phone. It was unbelievable! It was now on the bright side and the images were so big it was as if your stereo system was looking down at you from the ceiling and singing to you. It was fun but it was weird. This affect settled out over the rest of the night (about two hours) and when it was over the soundstage was still huge compared to how it had been before I started using any of the VD cables but everything was right and sounded very realistic.

I should say one thing agin and that is the Nites were a huge leap forward from even the other VD products but one thing I love about all of the VD stuff is the dramatic increase in dynamics. Where all that power and punch comes from I have no idea but it is significant.

Also, my amps used to run so hot that I twice had the pre-amp cut out on the thermal breaker but now with the VD cable it runs so cool you can't imagine that they ever got hot at all.

Anyhow, congratulations Hirsch.

Have you got your main speaker system all outfitted in VD stuff, yet? If not, grab your wallet, because I think the VD cable is more impressive on a speaker based system than it could ever be with headphones. I think both Dark Angel and John Acton have said the same thing.

And, just think, with a speaker based system you get to buy speakers cables, too. Oooh!






Best
Brian
post #17 of 90
I wonder if we could talk Rick into making some really good headphone replacement cables for the most popular brands......... even with my extremely limited budget I would consider getting rid of the Equinox and getting one of these new cables!!! Or maybe he could just do his treatments of the cables we already have???
post #18 of 90
Good lord! I'd never have thunk it

Who knows - someday when I've finished upgrading my headphones, built a KGSS, and upgraded my Arcam to a CD23, I might try a Nite or two
post #19 of 90
Thread Starter 
I wonder if he'd make a mini-to-RCA Nite cable?
post #20 of 90
As a side note, not sure if VD planned it this way but the Nite AC cords are aestheically the most beautiful AC cords I have seen, sometimes I like to look at my nest of shimmering silver snakes to admire their beauty. Don't have any Nite speaker cables but from photos the bi-wire sets are beautiful pieces of cable also.

I do place some value in this and won't spend a lot of money on a cable that looks bad or cheap, and get an alternative with better visual aesthetics.

Hirsch
Any further comments? Have you tried the Nites in your stereo yet?
post #21 of 90
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Originally posted by eric343
Good lord! I'd never have thunk it

Who knows - someday when I've finished upgrading my headphones, built a KGSS, and upgraded my Arcam to a CD23, I might try a Nite or two
Eric,

I must admit you are quite the impressive youth!! When I was 16 the only things I cared about were getting high, getting out of high school, and getting out of my folks' house, or getting a car! You should be thinking about things like high school, college, etc, not turning the audio world upside down before you can even vote. Kind of some wierd pinky and the Brain kinda thing going on here methinks! What we gonna do tonight Eric? The same thing we do every night Pinky, try to revolutionize the audio world!!

Seriously, impressive maturity, intelligence, and creativity are characteristics that are quite rare in someone so young.

Keep up the good work!!!! We expect great things from you lad.


Lord Bless,
doug p.
post #22 of 90
Your results make me wonder if the folks that didn't take to the lower-end VD cords gave them a fair break-in. Maybe they didn't have enough time on them for them to open up.

Obviously, I agree with Hirsch that the VD cords are by far the best tweak I've ever heard in my system and is really equivalent to doing *serious* component upgrades. Hearing is believing.

As for a VD HD600 cable upgrade-- man, you thought the Clou cables were stiff!

Mark
post #23 of 90
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by DarkAngel
Hirsch
Any further comments? Have you tried the Nites in your stereo yet?
The sound seems to be stabilizing a bit, at a very good place. I'll try and put together a description of the sound in a couple of days.

I actually got these strictly for my headphone system. I've been debating trying them in the speaker setup, but that's been pretty stable lately, and finances aren't limitless. I'm happy with the MIT's there, and probably won't mess with the speaker setup unless I feel a need to upgrade that's not present right now.

I'm also waiting for Rick to come out with an XLR cable. The Creek and the EAR both have balanced connectors.

However, now that the EAR is settling in, the next step is hooking the ZOTL back up with the Nites. Time to get that amp plugged in again.
post #24 of 90
Try one on your Melos, too. I had good results with mine.

Mark
post #25 of 90
Quote:
Originally posted by ServinginEcuador
Eric,

I must admit you are quite the impressive youth!! When I was 16 the only things I cared about were getting high, getting out of high school, and getting out of my folks' house, or getting a car! You should be thinking about things like high school, college, etc, not turning the audio world upside down before you can even vote. Kind of some wierd pinky and the Brain kinda thing going on here methinks! What we gonna do tonight Eric? The same thing we do every night Pinky, try to revolutionize the audio world!!

Seriously, impressive maturity, intelligence, and creativity are characteristics that are quite rare in someone so young.

Keep up the good work!!!! We expect great things from you lad.


Lord Bless,
doug p.
Gee, thanks
post #26 of 90
Quote:
Originally posted by markl
Your results make me wonder if the folks that didn't take to the lower-end VD cords gave them a fair break-in. Maybe they didn't have enough time on them for them to open up.
Mark
I paid some $30 or so for cable cooking on my 2 Power 1's from VD. Unless they gypped me on the cooking, they still weren't satisfactory even when broken in.

The References are better. There is still room for improvement though...I'm just wondering whether to go to Nites or, say, Cardas Golden References. Hirsch's final comments will be a factor for me.
post #27 of 90
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by Hirsch
I wonder if he'd make a mini-to-RCA Nite cable?
Once I posted this, I realized that I really wanted to know what kind of difference the Nite cables would make in a "portable" system. I had a Radio Shack RCA to mini adapter lying about. So:



The weird thing is that this cable really makes that system sing. It also works with other headphones, but they weren't as photogenic It's really amazing just how much sound is lost in the cable. There's going to be a problem fitting this into my travel bag, though

What's also amazing is that I have yet to find an amp that can't get a good solid bass response out of the R10...if it's hooked up with the VD cables. I've been complaining about the R10's bass for months, and yet even a PCDP and the RA-1 can drive the R10 with satisfying levels of bass...with the Nite interconnects in place. You don't really need to believe this...in fact I'm not sure I do, and I just heard it.
post #28 of 90
Oy, what do those VD guys PUT in those Nites, anyway?! It sounds almost like there's some active circuitry in there...
post #29 of 90
There is definitely something wrong about hooking up $3000+ set of headphones thru $1200 ICs, thru a $400 or so headphone amp to a $100 PCDP. And people made fun of me for hooking up some Signature series power cables to a Cambridge Audio D500SE CDP....;D

On the serious side: it also speaks about what these cables are capable of. I would seriously recommend getting as many Nites as you can afford before Rick figures out he is WAY under charging people for the improvements his cables are capable of!! Pretty soon someone in the review business with brains AND integrity will give some of these things a shot, and WHAM! no more cheap prices on what he sells. And you know what: I wouldn't blame him one bit and would do the same thing if I were in his shoes. He is a great guy with an incredible product and I pray he will be incredibly successful in what he does!

Just my .01.


Lord Bless
post #30 of 90
Hirsch--
I'm so glad you like the Nite series cables! I'd love to get your comments on the Nite cables with your Melos.

I suppose this is as good a place as any to "announce" ( , I know-- who was waiting for this), the fact that I will be soon auditioning/reviewing/comparing my Melos Audio Restoration upgraded SHA-Gold/Maestro against a Melos SHA-1 upgraded to the hilt by our own "carlos". carlos believes his upgraded SHA-1 should compete with my MAR upgraded Gold/Maestro.

Thanks to "bkelly", who has graciously decided to let carlos ship his upgraded SHA-1 to me before it even gets to him (what a stud!!), I will be able to provide a comparison between the two units, using my own Nite Series Power cord on my Sony SCD-333ES with Modwright mods and bkelly's Nite Series ICs from my Sony to my Maestro and to his upgraded SHA-1. That's right, in addition to letting me hear his upgraded SHA-1 before he even gets a chance to lay his own hands on it, I'll be receiving Brian's own Nite Series ICs to use as the interconnect in my comparison.

Let's hear it for Brian (bkelly)!!

Mark
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