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post #16 of 28
Waittaminute... Humble... Fi... I love it!
post #17 of 28
Thread Starter 
Actually, that review on Humble-Fi is what first got me interested in the DAC-38, but unfortunately, I thought that review isn't very specific, since it doesn't mention the rest of his gear, and what his musical preferences are.
post #18 of 28
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Originally Posted by slwiser
The implication of your post is that he has something to hide that is bad. It may actually be very much otherwise.
All I said is that it makes no marketing sense if you have a product with discrete circuitry (presumably an advantage) and you keep that a secret. Just my 2 cents. What else you read between the lines is not my problem.
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Originally Posted by slwiser
Your statement is a cheap shot on the concept of the "trade secret" in business. If you had an ideal that worth anything you would want to keep it secret too. I guess we will never have to worry about your have one of those (a trade secret)....
I'm sorry to correct you on this cheap shot
There is nothing cheap in anything I wrote, if you understand any of it.
post #19 of 28
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Originally Posted by mindthegap
Jon L is correct. The DAC 39, DAC 68 and DAC 192 are up sampling. Way to go Jon L!!! The DAC 38 and the DAC 60 (and I suggest you get the PV modded one since the stock DAC 60 has a hard top end no matter what you do. The PV modded one seems to take this away) are over sampling and can handle sampling frequencies to 96 kHz. The DAC 68 up samples to 192 kHz. The DAC 39 will upsample and feed any of the light DACs to 96 kHz as well as act as a DAC on its own. So imagine, upsampling a frequency and then feeding it to a DAC AH, (which is non oversampling) sounds pretty weird.

I have contacted Pacific Valve and they have agreed to adjust their web site.

If you do not want any harshness in the top end, and are not too weirded out by tubes, the DAC 68 has the sweetest high end out there. Its the SET of DACS.
That's funny because I've no complaints with the high frequencies of my DAC60, I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'hard' though.

I am pretty curious what sort of improvements I could get by adding the DAC 39 down the track.
post #20 of 28
The Lavry Black DA10 does not have discrete output circuitry.

However, the OPAMPs that it uses are one of the few that are actually intended for use in audio. [OP275 I believe, similar to the OPA627 in that respect]

Dan Lavry has answered this quite clearly on his forum multiple times.

EDIT: To clarify, I am talking about the XLR output. The headphone output IS completely discrete.

EDIT2: Where the DA10 distinguishes itself is in a smooth resolving sound that has an absolutely black background. How this is achieved is a question for minds more technical than mine. On a technical level I am very impressed with the volume control implementation, though Ori will tell you a different story. My advice is actually quite similar to that which Ori has already offered: Listen to the gear and decide for yourself.
post #21 of 28
FYI, the balanced XLR outputs on the Lavry DA10 are rated at about 4 watts per channel at max level per Dan Lavry. That is peak to peak voltage of 34.72 volts into 40 ohms. So be careful with your headphones if you decide to drive a balanced pair with the Lavry DA10 balanced XLR output. Most headphones are rated below 4 watts capacity. Especially when you are using low impedance headphones.

The analog signal from the balanced outputs of the Lavry may also be useful for driving information into any external amplifer you may be interested in using ahead of your headphones.
post #22 of 28
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Like I said previously, the Lavry will not see any duty as an amp. It is only going to be used as a DAC.
post #23 of 28
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Originally Posted by philodox
Waittaminute... Humble... Fi... I love it!

LOL, there should be this as well:

www.snooty-fi.com


post #24 of 28
Eh, my DAC-1 got you itchin' for that source upgrade Mike?
post #25 of 28
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Originally Posted by daba
Eh, my DAC-1 got you itchin' for that source upgrade Mike?
Haha, yup. I realized that I needed a source upgrade, BAD, after hearing your DAC-1.
post #26 of 28
get new headphones first. Sell off the akg's and get yourself a REAL phone.
post #27 of 28
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Originally Posted by yellafella321
get new headphones first. Sell off the akg's and get yourself a REAL phone.
Lol, nah, I'm perfectly content with my two AKG dynamics and my Stax Lambdas. I'd rather spend $1k on a K1000 or a decent speaker+power amp setup. In fact, that's what I will probably do once I finish my headphone rigs: use whatever amp I end up getting as a pre-amp to drive a power amp to drive some speakers.
post #28 of 28
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Originally Posted by humanflyz
Lol, nah, I'm perfectly content with my two AKG dynamics and my Stax Lambdas. I'd rather spend $1k on a K1000 or a decent speaker+power amp setup. In fact, that's what I will probably do once I finish my headphone rigs: use whatever amp I end up getting as a pre-amp to drive a power amp to drive some speakers.
there is reason on the forum !
you could try getting a zhaolu and spending about 800 dollars in mods seriously, bel canto has an interesting dac that has usb input that should fit in this range (i think).... i'ts on their website.
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