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Originally Posted by mikemacwillie
I will be trying some high speed opamps as well. the THS look interesting to try out
Yup, I've never tried the THS's myself, they definately do look very interesting.

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Perhaps when you get back I could purchase some off you?
Sure - I've only got a thousand or so, so hopefully I can meet your demand.
post #122 of 199
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Originally Posted by doobooloo
Yup, only half rail. Just out of curiosity - Are you going to be using the supplied os-cons or other caps?
One one I'll use the oscons, on the other I'll use Panny FMs. I can't imagine this is going to make any kind of difference but figured I'd do it anyway. Also, the only surface mount opamps that I could find at digikey were the 8620s so that's what I'll be using. The amp is going to be used for Senns so I think that'll work just fine.

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Whoa. I wish my solder would fly someday.
What can I say, I'm special .
post #123 of 199
Ohh yay I like reading updates
post #124 of 199
regarding the buf634/opa551 choice:
wouldn't it be better to use the opa551 or any hight current opamp than a buffer like the buf634? the buf634's output impedance is said to be around 10~20ohms, whereas an opamps output impedance in unity gain config should be much lower, right? in this case one could also replace the tle rails splitter with a resistor devider and a cap to ground for noise suppression, because the opamp has a very high input impedance...


and now something completely different: how do you guys solder the TPA6120 chip, especially the thermal pad?
post #125 of 199
oh yeah, and yet another thing: could someone post pics of this sexy beast?
post #126 of 199
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Originally Posted by t52
and now something completely different: how do you guys solder the TPA6120 chip, especially the thermal pad?
I'm also interested in hearing about this, I didn't see it mentioned anywhere earlier in the thread. Knowing that Doo had a breadboard prototype going I'm wondering if it's even required?
post #127 of 199
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Originally Posted by n_maher
I'm also interested in hearing about this, I didn't see it mentioned anywhere earlier in the thread. Knowing that Doo had a breadboard prototype going I'm wondering if it's even required?
The solder pads are on the most recent board, but to be honest, during normal operations the chip doesn't get very hot even without the pad soldered. Perhaps around 60 degrees celsius?

To get the PowerPad down on this board, you'll need a pretty powerful iron to keep the solder flowing in that ~ 3mm x 3mm area while the heat is dissipated throughout the groundplane.

And please - those who have completed the boards - post some pics for us! I know Mike posted a nearly completed pic earlier but we need more!
post #128 of 199
Ok, another question mostly as a result of me wanting to be careful since fixing SMD stuff is the devil.

Can anyone tell me why R3 and R6 are different values (49.9ohms vs. 499ohms)? From what I can see on the board they look to be in the same position relative to each channel. My thought is that on each channel one should be R3 and one should be R6, not two R3's on one channel and two R6's on the other. Either that or perhaps they are all supposed to be 499ohms.

Clarification would be stellar.

Nate
post #129 of 199
To oslder the powerpad.. I put lots of flux on the powerpad on the bottom of the chip, and the spot on the pcb before soldering down the TPA chip. Then using a large chisel chip I heated the area on the bottom of the board with all the vias. The vias will conduct the ehat to the top side, and the flux to the chip until you get some solder in there.. Then just slowly add solder to the board and it will flow through the many vias

I clipped all the legs off one TPA chip to see if the power pad was soldered.. and it was.



I will try to get more pictures, but my camera isn't any good! Perhaps natural lighting will help.
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Made good progress today, as much as I can without the digi chip (on order) and without the answer to my above question regarding R3 and R6.
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Nice clean soldering guys

Wow, that's some nice clean soldering Mike and Nate.

Did you guys do that freehand with a fine tip soldering iron and some fine solder?

It sure takes a steady hand.

I nearly trashed a sound card that I was modifying with a fine tip soldering iron using the thick Cardas solder.
post #133 of 199
Yes, all done freehand with a hakko station. I'm experienced though.. Done lots of SMT rework for a day job.


Looking good so far Nathan! Reguarding your questions about the resistors.. One of the TPA chips is in an inverting circuit, and the other in a non inverting circuit. You need different resistor values to get the same gain.
post #134 of 199
mikemacwillie, are those XLR connectors? They look quite a bit like 1/4th outputs.
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They are the 1/4" connectors the board was designed for.
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