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post #31 of 42
I've been using v3.0.0 and really love it. I just noticed that 3.1.0 is out now.

Dolby Headphone is the only one that really brings the sound outside of your head. But I don't like the way it sounds that much.
post #32 of 42

bs2b plugin for Windows Media Player released.

http://bs2b.sourceforge.net/download.html

post #33 of 42

VST too, very nice!

 

but it sounds mono and highly colored compared to VNoPhones.

post #34 of 42

I've been trying this DSP in foobar and it just sounds so congested compared to not using it. Without it my M50's sound spacious and airy, with it everything sounds dead flat on the ground.

post #35 of 42
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

I've been trying this DSP in foobar and it just sounds so congested compared to not using it. Without it my M50's sound spacious and airy, with it everything sounds dead flat on the ground.


Seems you've already grown too accustomed to the unnatural stereo separation / "soundstage" / sound coming from inside of your head feeling that is inherent with headphones. Nobody forces you to change that or to use the plugin.

Or you simply didn't configure it properly.

 

 


Edited by xnor - 6/1/11 at 2:27pm
post #36 of 42

Necro bump!

 

Trying it again with HE500 (with modded pads) today, wow. HE500s already have very exceptional imaging capabilities, and this DSP pushes the soundstage out and away on top of that. I'm digging it! Sounds 95% like speakers on my head basically.

 

Will post more detailed impressions later.

post #37 of 42

Audacious on Linux seems to have this plug built in from the start, I tried it and I liked it, I preferred the J.Meier-setting. So, I had to test it on Foobar2000 as well, I downloaded the latest version available and it works very well. I don't think there is much coloration with high quality source material - other similar plugins tested have had more coloration - but rather the sound gets more relaxed to listen to, which is the intended effect. I can't decide yet if I will continue to use it, but it sounds promising. I use HD600 for the record :-)

post #38 of 42

I recently heard a great speaker system and I realized how disconnected from a real stereo system I was.

I came back to use the BS2B dsp and thought the C.Moy settings were very close to what I heard on this speaker system, I'm definitely going to use it now.

post #39 of 42
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Originally Posted by Puranti View Post
 

I recently heard a great speaker system and I realized how disconnected from a real stereo system I was.

I came back to use the BS2B dsp and thought the C.Moy settings were very close to what I heard on this speaker system, I'm definitely going to use it now.

 

Just saw this mentioned and I had to try it out. It's different but quite nice. It makes the sound-stage more cohesive and removes the separation with no loss of quality, at the cost of being more distant and a little lost of volume. Taking it off, you can really hear the separated sound of headphones, a gap, especially in the vocals. I have to get used to this more relaxed sound, but since I can never have the speakers too loud in my apartment anyway, it'll be like listening to them.

 

I also like the C. Moy setting. The Default feels a little too closed in. The J. Meier almost a little too separate and is the most like normal headphones. The C. Moy is in the middle and feels the most comfortable and accepting.

post #40 of 42

More necromancy!

 

The latest version of SoX can use multichannel (read: non-mono) LADSPA plugins, including bs2b. I think there were already Windows programs that could apply the bs2b transforms, but SoX is pretty portable and useful for Linux folk like myself. I just used it to make bs2b versions of my library to put on my old iPod classic; worked like a charm.

post #41 of 42

Well, I discovered this little DSP today. I use an ATH-M50X and I like the sound of these cans veeery much. It does a great job, but I kind miss the soundstage of a HD 598 that I have listened for a few days.

 

I really liked it. But I have some questions.

 

1) I use it with Foobar2000, there is a better alternative to this DSP? I mean, another plugin that do a better job?

2) What settings are you using? The choice of you was based only by taste?

3) Is there any reason to think that with this plugin I would be losing more details or sound fidelity? I would like a more elaborate explanation, not just personal opinions, if possible

 

Because I had never used any plugins of that kind and I'm afraid to be sacrificing the performance of my headphones, because I notice that I am not very good at spotting details in the sounds.

 

Sorry for my bad English and thanks!

post #42 of 42
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Originally Posted by ExtremeGamerBR View Post
 

2) What settings are you using? The choice of you was based only by taste?

3) Is there any reason to think that with this plugin I would be losing more details or sound fidelity? I would like a more elaborate explanation, not just personal opinions, if possible

 

Not a foobar user so can't comment on 1)

 

2) The goal is to use settings that will help mirror the natural crossfeed you would hear from some stereo speaker setup. What those settings are depend on, among other things, your head size/shape and the speaker position. Since most people aren't going to do measurements to work all this out exactly, what ends up being used are "go-to" settings like those given on the bs2b site.

 

3) You may notice a bit of shrinking of the soundstage/headstage, but that's kind of exactly what you're asking this kind of plugin to do. See the site for a bit of explanation of the technical details. The basic summary is "mix in a bit of the L channel into the R with a bit of delay, and vice versa". There are different ways to implement this; what bs2b does is different from what, say, Rockbox does for its crossfeed DSP.

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