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post #46 of 185
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Originally Posted by iamdone
I forgot to mention that the silibance totally disappeared when I found the right spot. If you place them right in the middle, you'll get a brighter sound. This were I used to have them just because it seemed to make sense. If you move them a little forward, the sounds smooths just a bit. If you push too forward, then you do get that mufflled sound. Push them to that point and then slide them back just until they sound clears up. Somewhere in that spot is where the soundstage really opens up.
My particular pair doesn't seem to have sibilance, except on a few recordings that has it anyway... Lost in Space, Park Life, etc. No other recording has "added" it, with any head position for me.

As for my position, I wear them like I would Beyers and I think they sound best that way... my ears up and to the back of the pad. I think this places the driver fairly directly over your ear, maybe a little in front. After about 30 minutes this way, the headphones themselves dissapear and I get the "holographic" soundstage: sound exists entirely outside my head in 360 degrees. Good recordings help this even more, but poorly recorded punk stuff can certainly exhibit it. You can hear the depth, how far back each instrument is from the mic, etc. It's pretty fun*, and may be why I think they feel "organic" to me. The most important part of this is that it is consistant: I've had other headphones that have from time to time thrown a really cool effect at me of being in or around the music, but often it would dissapear when my ears weren't tired, or I was in a different listening mood. I often couldn't replicate it under the same conditions with the same song. These though, they do it every time without fail, so I think they're a good match for my ears.

*by fun, I mean I start to crack that big stupid grin that I get at meets when I like something.
post #47 of 185
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Originally Posted by Audiofiler
Nice feedback, how do these cans sound with your Audio Mirror DAC2?
better/worse/neither?
I don't really have anything else to test other than directly out of my Airport Express. The DAC2 actually turns out to be a moddified DAC-AH Lite (opamps removed from output and better caps) with a better case and cones on the bottom.

The silibance issue might be less of a problem than I made it out to be. It is only on certain recordings but I did find it annoying. It has also been pointed out that it's probably not the GS1000's fault themselves. I'm willing to believe that it's really just the recordings themselves.

No matter where I put the headphones, I was getting a good soundstage but somehow I found this spot that really changed things. The only example I can think of is the new Tool album has this stereoscope built into the packaging. You look at the image through these glasses and it becomes 3D. There's a point where it has some depth but when you really get it, the 3D image really opens up. The GS1000 is the same way with positioning.
post #48 of 185
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Originally Posted by Audiofiler
where this is true, people generally (myself included) try not to post off topic in threads like this, because there are already too many of the types of threads that go back and forth with argumentation and proper debate, and wow those are great
However, I was trying to concentrate comments, positive feedback, and intended utilization for the members that pre-ordered and kept their pair so that there was a thread with reference information therein. Everyones elses comments in this thread seem off topic and out of place, seeing is how the name of the thread is Cust Appreciation...and all. Half the comments are from people not reading the entire thread, or caring to..just dropping their 2cents everywhere they can...and most of whom I am referring to, at least in this thread, do not even seem to own the darn cans to begin with, their feedback seems more like shots in the dark and "other topic" starters, rather that an individual speaking on these cans or their performance because he/she owns them...
I agree with you in theory, but not in practical application.



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Originally Posted by Audiofiler
Sweet!! An on topic post, yes the GS1's are super-duper sensitive...909, with your avy, I am hardpressed to think that you have not noticed the extra static/hiss in Abbey Road MFSL half speed mastered LP....do you have something similar to this version on hand? If you do, play that Beatles CD again, there are dozens of examples of the "magic between the hiss" including pops, extra hiss, and other audible noises in this Beatles CD, that made me positive of this fact too..
In fact, Abbey Rd was the first material the GS1's ate up, pre burn in, and post burn in...I was flabbergasted how sensitive the GS1's were in relation to my gear and material....and could make out interaction between components.
In other words, the difference in sound when applying/removing the DAC was considerable, as well as the source transport..

neat stuff, anybody else??
By the way, I like the GS1000 smiley, but it kind of scares me, if there sis somwone that is good at that type of stuff, maybe create one with the smile that the K1000 smiley has...but the the GS1's on him...

I think this was mentioned in another thread, but seems like a cool idea, I like the current one too word up I love the cans
I only listened to the GS-1000s at the HE2006 show so I don't have a pair at home (until about five minutes ago SN: 159). I don't own any MFSL stuff, but have been keeping my eye out for some. I can't wait to try these things out later this evening.
post #49 of 185
Since you guys are on the subject, and I know this has been talked about a zillion times, and I know the GS-1000 are a whole different ball of wax what with the pads and such, I thought I'd re-post Jan Meier's tip off his web site about headphone position:

It's so easy, but did you ever test for the optimal position of your headphone? With many headphones the soundstage and the balance of sound are strongly dependent on the position of the driver to our ears.

Scientific research has shown that our perception of depth is increased when the driver is placed more forward and lower with respect to the entrance of the ear channel.

Experimenting doesn't cost you anything and may improve sound considerably.


post #50 of 185
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by 909
I don't own any MFSL stuff, but have been keeping my eye out for some. I can't wait to try these things out later this evening.
PM me, maybe we can work a deal out and get you something nasty to feed that beast of yours, the GS1's...I have some uber rare material you may be keen on, and may work to depict the example afformentioned in my post per the Beatles..

word.
post #51 of 185
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Originally Posted by Sean H
[i]It's so easy, but did you ever test for the optimal position of your headphone? With many headphones the soundstage and the balance of sound are strongly dependent on the position of the driver to our ears.

Scientific research has shown that our perception of depth is increased when the driver is placed more forward and lower with respect to the entrance of the ear channel.


Yes, that was what a few of us were posting on earlier, the positioning of the cans and all. And thank you for the graph and picture!! Very nice indeed
...typically I look like the guy on the right in this picture, only my nose is bigger
post #52 of 185
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Originally Posted by Sean H
Since you guys are on the subject, and I know this has been talked about a zillion times, and I know the GS-1000 are a whole different ball of wax what with the pads and such, I thought I'd re-post Jan Meier's tip off his web site about headphone position:

It's so easy, but did you ever test for the optimal position of your headphone? With many headphones the soundstage and the balance of sound are strongly dependent on the position of the driver to our ears.

Scientific research has shown that our perception of depth is increased when the driver is placed more forward and lower with respect to the entrance of the ear channel.

Experimenting doesn't cost you anything and may improve sound considerably.


Yep, that's exactly it. The problem I had is that takes a moment to hear the difference. I was sliding the headphone all around and it all sounded pretty much the same. When I got to the spot the pictures shows and left it there, that's when things changed.
post #53 of 185
That picture is totally it, like I was saying, it's similar to the way I wear Beyerdynamics for the optimal sound.
post #54 of 185
I've been trying different positions on my head and it all seems to sound good. I also settled on where the back of the pad are against the top and back of my ear, so yeah slightly forward and lower than standard.

Now what do I do with my RS-1 - should I sell my K701 since it sounds like a severely watered down GS-1000 (and less musical). Do I keep my Senn 600's in case I need help falling asleep?

The GS-1000 has made a mess of my other headphones. I now can't justify having all my other cans since I probably won't listen to them much. I just may have all I want in one package. It's that good!!

Oh, the K1000's are staying

So much for the several headphones to make up for weaknesses.

The GS-1000 does tight bass down to subwoofer levels, highs as sparkling or more than the RS-1, midrange as smooth and musical as you could want, soundstage that rivals the best out there - dynamic punch, works for all kinds of music including bad recordings. Don't need to spend thousands on an amp to make it sound good.
post #55 of 185
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Originally Posted by robm321
I've been trying different positions on my head and it all seems to sound good. I also settled on where the back of the pad are against the top and back of my ear, so yeah slightly forward and lower than standard.

Now what do I do with my RS-1 - should I sell my K701 since it sounds like a severely watered down GS-1000 (and less musical). Do I keep my Senn 600's in case I need help falling asleep?

The GS-1000 has made a mess of my other headphones. I now can't justify having all my other cans since I probably won't listen to them much. I just may have all I want in one package. It's that good!!

Oh, the K1000's are staying

So much for the several headphones to make up for weaknesses.

The GS-1000 does tight bass down to subwoofer levels, highs as sparkling or more than the RS-1, midrange as smooth and musical as you could want, soundstage that rivals the best out there - dynamic punch, works for all kinds of music including bad recordings. Don't need to spend thousands on an amp to make it sound good.
Keep the RS1, man. The GS1000 can't do everything the RS1 can. At some point I'd like to have both... the intimacy and more in your face flavor of the RS1 to compliment the GS1000.

As for the K701, how dare you consider unleashing it on another human being!
post #56 of 185
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Originally Posted by Audiofiler
To All: Has anyone tried with the Melos SHA1?? I am killing myself for selling a few months ago, and was anxious to see if that Tube Amp will "tame" the GS1's and the highs or just further antagonize its "place of Bass" with the lush Tubey sound ...anyone relate to this question with some experience?

I don't have a Melos SHA-1, but I do have/had a Melos that is similar enough I suppose. I feel a straight tube amp fits my tastes more; however, there is no doubt that the Melos and its hybrid goodness gives the GS-1k enough juice to just go go go! The bass is very very strong and tight, tighter than when using the Ear, and the highs are very crisp and clear. Everything works so very well but it may be a bit lean compared to what I get with the Ear. I just so enjoy the lushness of the Ear while maintaining linearity. It has been said to be a very untubey tube amp, but retains enough tubiness to remain a tube amp It's a SET, uses 6sl7's and I dig it. If I couldn't have the Ear, I would definitely use the Melos with the GS-1000's, but I have always felt the SHA-X at least, was rolled well for metal Grados, HP-1000's and PS-1000's and that the woodies synergized better with a full tube amp. Just my opinion.

I don't feel the GS-1k's need "taming" in the highs, but don't give them a crappy source or a pitchy amp, you'll be sorry. The Melos will provide sparkle in the highs, clear concise, crisp but never strident, and the bass is strong and tight, not boomy.
post #57 of 185
^ hahaha about the K701 - Thanks for the encouragement. I know I'd regret selling the RS-1 - now that I have the GS-1000, I'm appreciating the RS-1 (on stage pass) even more. I think Senns will be out of my equation pretty soon.
post #58 of 185
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Zanth
Everything works so very well but it may be a bit lean compared to what I get with the Ear. I just so enjoy the lushness of the Ear while maintaining linearity. It has been said to be a very untubey tube amp, but retains enough tubiness to remain a tube amp
Thanks for this awesome input!! That does not surprise me at all, in terms of the lean sound VS using the GS1's with the eHP4.. Nice observation regarding the linearity, will have to check out an Ear in the future if possible..
post #59 of 185
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Originally Posted by lmilhan
I am happy that you are happy for those who enjoy their new GS-1000s, but doesn't is seem kind of odd that one would post that they were not satisfied with the GS-1000s in a "GS-1000 customer satisfaction and appreciation thread". Or it is just me? I suppose it could be me, I am kind of having an 'off' day today. Just thinking out loud here.


Perhaps is because I do appreciate them but in a negative way.
post #60 of 185
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Originally Posted by mrarroyo
Perhaps is because I do appreciate them but in a negative way.
I.... see.

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