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post #16 of 173
Since I posted in many other threads how much I enjoy them, I will try to summarize here:

1) Beautiful cavernous headstage.

2) I like the way they sound a lot better through my GS-1 amp than through my PPX3 SLAM.

3) Similar to the RS-1s except they have a huge soundstage (see 1) and have much more palatable, deeper, musical and impactful bass. In comparison, they make the RS-1s sound 'thin'.

4) Comfortable Grados - who would ever have guessed? Far and away the most comfy headphones I have ever placed upon my head.

5) These headphones are the most sensitive and reactive to head placement out of any other headphone I have ever owned. I prefer them pushed forwad until the backs of my ears just touch the rear of the bagel pads - that is the sweet spot for me.

6) Not only do they excel at reproducing my music, but they are also great (albeit very expensive) gaming phones, and they are great to be used for watching movies (the headstage and comfort play a big role here). So they are good 'all-rounders' if one would like to use them that way.

7) I think that aesthetically they are beautiful in a very 'retro' kind of way. Not much unlike how I prefer the way a classic muscle car looks when compared to a modern day one.

8) After many, many A/B tests with the GS-1000s, RS-1s and HHF-1s, there was no contest for my ears. As such the RS-1s and HHF-1s were sold, and I haven't looked back, nor have I second guessed that decision.

9) My GS-1000 rig supplemented with my K1000 rig has made it such that for the first time since I have joined Head-Fi, I am absolutely content with my headphone gear (see my sig to get a feel for some of the gear I have gone through). I no longer feel a need or urge to upgrade or try different headphones. I feel I have reached some sort of Head-Fi 'zen'. It was a long (and somewhat expensive) journey, but it was totally worth it.

10) Although I have been told that they have the same ohm ratings as the RS-1s, while I was A/B ing them both I had to goose the juice in order to drive them as loud as the RS-1s were. Although they seem a bit more current hunrgy when compared to the RS-1s, I would venture a guess that I needed to raise the volume in order to compensate for the fact that the drivers are so much further away from your ears when compared to the RS-1 drivers.

Oh well, so much for a short summary huh?

This could probably go without saying, but just in case: I like them - a lot!

post #17 of 173
I am very happy for you all. It is good to buy something that meets and surpasses your expectation.

I wish I could say the same, sadly mine are up for sale in the " For Sale Forum". If they do not sell in the next week or so back to TTVJ they go.
post #18 of 173
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrarroyo
I am very happy for you all. It is good to buy something that meets and surpasses your expectation.

I wish I could say the same, sadly mine are up for sale in the " For Sale Forum". If they do not sell in the next week or so back to TTVJ they go.
I am happy that you are happy for those who enjoy their new GS-1000s, but doesn't is seem kind of odd that one would post that they were not satisfied with the GS-1000s in a "GS-1000 customer satisfaction and appreciation thread". Or it is just me? I suppose it could be me, I am kind of having an 'off' day today. Just thinking out loud here.

post #19 of 173
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrarroyo
I am very happy for you all. It is good to buy something that meets and surpasses your expectation.

I wish I could say the same, sadly mine are up for sale in the " For Sale Forum". If they do not sell in the next week or so back to TTVJ they go.
Cool man, you're letting international folks go for them too, right? That seems like a really nice gesture.

EDIT: Just read your FS, and it looks like you are! Jump on it folks!

And only two hours on your head? Tsk!
post #20 of 173
So it looks like we have two owners that say the GS-1s are good with the GS-1000s. I have the GS-1000s on the way and I will be pairing it with the HR-2. I know it is early, but It would be nice to get a thread going about amps that synergize well with the GS-1000s. Sure people like different things, but I think the main thing is finding some amps that take the silibilance (spelling) or Grado edge off the highs so we do not get listening fatigue. I tried the SR-225s, but my ears just couldn't take them for long periods.
post #21 of 173
Yeah, I like mine. I'm about ready to change my signature putting these just below my AKG K1000s.

I am really suprised this was tuned to the RA-1. It definately has the synergy and great sound quality, but it just didn't have the dynamics that it does with my Gilmore Lite. With the Gilmore, the bass is very noticeably tighter as well. Nice to know you don't need a $3K amp to make these sound good.

mrarroyo has given the GS-1000 his best shot from the posts he's made, so I don't think he's trying to cast a negative shadow on the GS-1000. I think his hopes have been let down is all. At least he gave them an honest shot. And the RS-1 is no chump next to the GS-1000. I was planning on selling mine, but everytime I compare, the RS-1 seems to be more musical/fun. - the GS-1000 seems more refined and elagant in sound (read:classical/jazz).

But clearly the GS-1000 is everything I'd hoped for - refinement, soundstage, layering, no glaring highs, and comfort ahhhhhh fruision.

post #22 of 173
Quote:
Originally Posted by lmilhan
Since I posted in many other threads how much I enjoy them, I will try to summarize here:

1) Beautiful cavernous headstage.

2) I like the way they sound a lot better through my GS-1 amp than through my PPX3 SLAM.

3) Similar to the RS-1s except they have a huge soundstage (see 1) and have much more palatable, deeper, musical and impactful bass. In comparison, they make the RS-1s sound 'thin'.

4) Comfortable Grados - who would ever have guessed? Far and away the most comfy headphones I have ever placed upon my head.

5) These headphones are the most sensitive and reactive to head placement out of any other headphone I have ever owned. I prefer them pushed forwad until the backs of my ears just touch the rear of the bagel pads - that is the sweet spot for me.

6) Not only do they excel at reproducing my music, but they are also great (albeit very expensive) gaming phones, and they are great to be used for watching movies (the headstage and comfort play a big role here). So they are good 'all-rounders' if one would like to use them that way.

7) I think that aesthetically they are beautiful in a very 'retro' kind of way. Not much unlike how I prefer the way a classic muscle car looks when compared to a modern day one.

8) After many, many A/B tests with the GS-1000s, RS-1s and HHF-1s, there was no contest for my ears. As such the RS-1s and HHF-1s were sold, and I haven't looked back, nor have I second guessed that decision.

9) My GS-1000 rig supplemented with my K1000 rig has made it such that for the first time since I have joined Head-Fi, I am absolutely content with my headphone gear (see my sig to get a feel for some of the gear I have gone through). I no longer feel a need or urge to upgrade or try different headphones. I feel I have reached some sort of Head-Fi 'zen'. It was a long (and somewhat expensive) journey, but it was totally worth it.

10) Although I have been told that they have the same ohm ratings as the RS-1s, while I was A/B ing them both I had to goose the juice in order to drive them as loud as the RS-1s were. Although they seem a bit more current hunrgy when compared to the RS-1s, I would venture a guess that I needed to raise the volume in order to compensate for the fact that the drivers are so much further away from your ears when compared to the RS-1 drivers.

Oh well, so much for a short summary huh?

This could probably go without saying, but just in case: I like them - a lot!


Is it really true that GS1000 sounds so much better than than RS-1 ? The RS-1 has been around for so many years and received so much praise and Grado has never cut its price not even 1 penny(as I know). You are saying the difference is day and night. Is it really so? The price only $300 difference between them. What you are saying is that whoever can afford to buy (or already did) RS-1 by all means buy GS1000. I am new in the site. But I guess you might praise RS-1 far more so than GS1000 before GS1000. But if GS1000 sounds somewhere close enough as you said, then Grado must know PH so much more than any other PH makers. On the other hand, Tyll has different opinion (Somes say he is payed by Senn. secretly of course). Well, when GS1000 released officially, it will be seriously tested. Then the answer will be really clear.
post #23 of 173
It sounds like PH revolution or Grado PH revolution at least. I hope so no less than any one else.
post #24 of 173
Well I did another little test between the RA-1 and the GS-1 and the GS-1 definately wins. The RA-1 sounds like I'm listening to a recording. All the instruments are pleasant but when I listen on the GS-1, you can hear the detail of the instruments. Even voices have much more texture. Even though it has more details, it is still smoother than the RA-1. Also, the bass is definitely boosted on the RA-1. With GS-1, it brings it down real deep were you feel it in your bones.

As I said, the GS1000 still a very enjoyable with the RA-1 and it has a nice flow but it's capable of much more.

As far as the silibance, it seems to be getting better.

In regard to the post about the RS-1. I was a huge fan of the RS-1 and was prepared not to be wowed by the GS1000, since I really didn't think the RS-1 had any real issues. The GS1000 seemed to keep a close sound but with much better bass and a more opened layered sound. But as you can see, there are still some that are going still prefer the RS-1.
post #25 of 173
I've been pretty quiet regarding the GS-1000's since I really wanted to evaluate them after burn-in. They do well with the RA-1 no doubt, in fact I find, that with my gear, the high gain of the RA-1 (regular battery one) is more than enough for crazy levels and dynamics with the GS-1k; however, these phones are more revealing than any other Grado in the past to hiss, source noise etc. That is, these are on par to IEM's and/or R10's which I always found to be very sensitive to upstream components noise factor. My RA-1 is fairly quiet, my Ear is DEAD quiet. I prefer my Ear by a LARGE margin to any amp I have tested with the GS-1k, including the Melos. To me, thus far, the Ear does it best balancing the strengths of the GS-1k's with the strengths and weaknesses of the SET 6sl7 amp.
post #26 of 173
Quote:
Originally Posted by augustwest
"Why do I feel like this thread will end up being a huge fight like every other GS-1k thread..."

. . . . because, Grados in general bring out the extremes in opinions/passions, Love them, or Hate them.


- augustwest
I am a bit tried from a long day so I’ll save most of my energy.
But my main issue with Grados is usually limited to build quality and wood workmanship. I saw, felt, and listened to extensively Tyll’s GS-1000s at the HE2006.


Quote:
Originally Posted by lmilhan
I am happy that you are happy for those who enjoy their new GS-1000s, but doesn't is seem kind of odd that one would post that they were not satisfied with the GS-1000s in a "GS-1000 customer satisfaction and appreciation thread". Or it is just me? I suppose it could be me, I am kind of having an 'off' day today. Just thinking out loud here.

If someone started a thread that only limited responses in the negative about any product on Head-Fi someone somewhere you provide their opinion in the contrary. I bet the majority of the posters in this thread would put in their two cents and the same response as you just gave could be given to them under the opposite circumstance.


Quote:
Originally Posted by rshdhead
Is it really true that GS1000 sounds so much better than than RS-1 ? The RS-1 has been around for so many years and received so much praise and Grado has never cut its price not even 1 penny(as I know). You are saying the difference is day and night. Is it really so? The price only $300 difference between them. What you are saying is that whoever can afford to buy (or already did) RS-1 by all means buy GS1000. I am new in the site. But I guess you might praise RS-1 far more so than GS1000 before GS1000. But if GS1000 sounds somewhere close enough as you said, then Grado must know PH so much more than any other PH makers. On the other hand, Tyll has different opinion (Somes say he is payed by Senn. secretly of course). Well, when GS1000 released officially, it will be seriously tested. Then the answer will be really clear.
I liked the RS-1s when I had them. But my wife didn’t and greatly preferred the HD650s. Over the weekend we went to the HE2006 show and she got an opportunity to listen to the GS-1000s, which she liked better than the RS-1s, K701s and the HD650s. I think someone said it best when they mentioned that the GS-1000s sound like the illegitimate offspring of the HD650 and the RS-1. The GS-1000s has the body and soundstage like the HD650 while retaining the detail retrieval of the RS-1s. I really enjoyed my time with them, but need a better listening environment and wished that the wood and built quality was better.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanth
I've been pretty quiet regarding the GS-1000's since I really wanted to evaluate them after burn-in. They do well with the RA-1 no doubt, in fact I find, that with my gear, the high gain of the RA-1 (regular battery one) is more than enough for crazy levels and dynamics with the GS-1k; however, these phones are more revealing than any other Grado in the past to hiss, source noise etc. That is, these are on par to IEM's and/or R10's which I always found to be very sensitive to upstream components noise factor. My RA-1 is fairly quiet, my Ear is DEAD quiet. I prefer my Ear by a LARGE margin to any amp I have tested with the GS-1k, including the Melos. To me, thus far, the Ear does it best balancing the strengths of the GS-1k's with the strengths and weaknesses of the SET 6sl7 amp.
Yes, the GS-1000s are very sensitive and very revealing. When I listened to Take Five I could hear a consistent hiss in the background, which wasn’t as easily noticeable (if not at all) on the K701s and HD650s. And the source was Tyll’s Wadia and HeadRoom Max balanced amp.
post #27 of 173
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zanth
I've been pretty quiet regarding the GS-1000's since I really wanted to evaluate them after burn-in. They do well with the RA-1 no doubt, in fact I find, that with my gear, the high gain of the RA-1 (regular battery one) is more than enough for crazy levels and dynamics with the GS-1k; however, these phones are more revealing than any other Grado in the past to hiss, source noise etc. That is, these are on par to IEM's and/or R10's which I always found to be very sensitive to upstream components noise factor. My RA-1 is fairly quiet, my Ear is DEAD quiet. I prefer my Ear by a LARGE margin to any amp I have tested with the GS-1k, including the Melos. To me, thus far, the Ear does it best balancing the strengths of the GS-1k's with the strengths and weaknesses of the SET 6sl7 amp.

With your status as one of the more notable Grado lovers on the forum, I think everyone is awaiting your review, especially if you plan to do comparisons to the RS1, PS1 and the HP1/2.

I love the HP2's neutrality and transparency and would love to hear comparison's to the GS1K in those regards. If the GS1K is a worthwhile replacement for the long discontinued HP2 in those regards, this user would really like to know. I found the PS1's bass too dominant, since I love sonics that are well throughout the frequency range. However, I own & love the AKG K81DJ, which has a slightly dominant bass. Of course, I use the K81DJ as portable phones where the increased bass is not too objectionable, and would prefer a better frequency balanced phone for home/main use. AKG K701?

Finally, as a certified detail freak, I would like to know how the GS1K compares to some of the top phones in this regard---certainly including the RS1 or PS1, but perhaps also the DT880, K701, the K1000, the SA5K and Qualia 010.
post #28 of 173
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post #29 of 173
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Originally Posted by rshdhead
But if GS1000 sounds somewhere close enough as you said, then Grado must know PH so much more than any other PH makers. On the other hand, Tyll has different opinion (Somes say he is payed by Senn. secretly of course). Well, when GS1000 released officially, it will be seriously tested. Then the answer will be really clear.
Tyll said it was the best of the current grado's he has heard...

Biggie.
post #30 of 173
By the way, did anyone who owns both GS-1000 and RS-1 tried to do comparisons by using the GS-1000 pads on the RS-1? I would expect the soundstage of the RS-1 to be larger and the bass maybe more important.

Is the difference between the two headphones actually that big when you use the same pads on both (wether it is flats or bowls, or the GS-1000 pads)?

Knowing different pads can have such a large influence on the sound of grados, I think we should compare them at the same level, therefore with the same pads.
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