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post #121 of 218
I must say I'm reading quite positive opinions too www around
post #122 of 218
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That's because they had no clue how the Wii-mote was actually working. They were playing tennis like they were playing it for real. When in fact the Wii-mote only controlled the actual swing and the intensity of the swing.

In that particular game, the tennis player (actually you are controlling two of them in a doubles match) you are controlling is not controlled by the Wii-mote at all. It automatically runs towards the ball, you have no control over movement whatsoever, other than the swing of the rachet, and the intensity of the swing. In fact it did not matter what side you were swinging from, forehand or backhand, just doing a swipe of the Wii-mote on the same side all the time did the same thing as a full tennis swing.

In the tennis game that everyone was having so much fun with, anyone that claims that there was more to it than that is imagining the extra control that wasn't there at all.

Playing = Make Believing.

-Ed
post #123 of 218
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The only Wii games there that used the controller in a real and fun way were the party type games like Wario Ware and others like a Drumming game, where you used two Wii-motes for drumsticks.

Like I said, casual gamers and little kids (and their parents) will love the Wii.

More experienced gamers will see through the gimmicks and graduate to better gaming systems.

-Ed
post #124 of 218
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Originally Posted by boodi
I must say I'm reading quite positive opinions too www around

Bose gets quite positive reviews and popularity among the masses in the www around as well.

-Ed
post #125 of 218
It sounds to me like the game limitations may be software, not hardware based. In other words, the game designers may be the ones that are responsible for the limited way the game can be played.

Remember that the Wii-mote is a relatively new idea of controlling a game. It'll probably take a while for the game designers to figure out how to take full advantage of what the hardware can do.

In any case, I'll wait and see how this all shakes out a year from now. I broke down in a moment of drunken insanity (well, not really, but it's always a good excuse) and picked up an Xbox on eBay for real cheap. Figure between Halo 2 should keep me busy for a while
post #126 of 218
Went to e3, stood in line to play Wii. They closed the booth while I was in line, damn that pissed me off. That line was so long
post #127 of 218
I dont think anyone has brought this up yet.....but.........

What about more complex games? Sports games and the like?

WTF are you supposed to do to control them without going insane? The thing really doesnt have enough buttons for a game like madden, and i dont really think it will be able to handle Multiplayer FPS games very well. It really does seem like the sort of gimmick that will only work well with certain games.

I think its going to end up pulling a gamecube and get no support at all in the later months, because the controller is going to end up limiting the complexity of the games you can play with it. For a lot of games, i can picture that controller feeling awkward to control, almost to the point of being annoying.
post #128 of 218
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Originally Posted by Beach123456
I dont think anyone has brought this up yet.....but.........

What about more complex games? Sports games and the like?

WTF are you supposed to do to control them without going insane? The thing really doesnt have enough buttons for a game like madden, and i dont really think it will be able to handle Multiplayer FPS games very well. It really does seem like the sort of gimmick that will only work well with certain games.

I think its going to end up pulling a gamecube and get no support at all in the later months, because the controller is going to end up limiting the complexity of the games you can play with it. For a lot of games, i can picture that controller feeling awkward to control, almost to the point of being annoying.
There's actually a controller shell that allows you to use the Wii remote as a regular controller. Games that are better suited to more traditional controls (SSBM being an example) aren't going to use the motion sensing stuff.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/09/co...hell-revealed/

Also useful for the virtual console, which I am looking forward to.
post #129 of 218
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Originally Posted by Beach123456
I dont think anyone has brought this up yet.....but.........

What about more complex games? Sports games and the like?

WTF are you supposed to do to control them without going insane? The thing really doesnt have enough buttons for a game like madden, and i dont really think it will be able to handle Multiplayer FPS games very well. It really does seem like the sort of gimmick that will only work well with certain games.

I think its going to end up pulling a gamecube and get no support at all in the later months, because the controller is going to end up limiting the complexity of the games you can play with it. For a lot of games, i can picture that controller feeling awkward to control, almost to the point of being annoying.
You are supposed to be able to use the Gamecube controller with the system. They are planning another Smash Brothers game so obviously they are not limiting themselves to simple control schemes.
post #130 of 218
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Originally Posted by ADS
There's actually a controller shell that allows you to use the Wii remote as a regular controller. Games that are better suited to more traditional controls (SSBM being an example) aren't going to use the motion sensing stuff.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/09/co...hell-revealed/

Also useful for the virtual console, which I am looking forward to.

You can turn the Wii-mote sideways to use it as a simple controller, along with the gyro.

The Retro Controller is connected to the Wii-mote via a dongle cable like the Nunchuk. So, I guess the Wii-mote will be resting in your lap or beside you when playing. Pretty awkward IMO.

The really interesting concept was the light gun attachment. But I would much rather have a real light gun game, where you have pinpoint accuracy of shooting where you aim, and not moving a cursor around to shoot.

Projection TV's killed the Light Gun game genre.

-Ed
post #131 of 218
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Originally Posted by Beach123456
I dont think anyone has brought this up yet.....but.........

What about more complex games? Sports games and the like?

WTF are you supposed to do to control them without going insane? The thing really doesnt have enough buttons for a game like madden, and i dont really think it will be able to handle Multiplayer FPS games very well. It really does seem like the sort of gimmick that will only work well with certain games.

I think its going to end up pulling a gamecube and get no support at all in the later months, because the controller is going to end up limiting the complexity of the games you can play with it. For a lot of games, i can picture that controller feeling awkward to control, almost to the point of being annoying.
QFT. Nailed it on the head, man.

If you really want to play Madden on the Wii, don't worry, Nintendo will dumb it down and simplify it for use with the Wii-mote.

-Ed
post #132 of 218
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Originally Posted by Edwood
QFT. Nailed it on the head, man.

If you really want to play Madden on the Wii, don't worry, Nintendo will dumb it down and simplify it for use with the Wii-mote.

-Ed

Did you play madden on the Wii? From what I've heard it's actually quite good control, EA has been working hard to take advantage of it.
post #133 of 218
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I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. I haven't had a chance to play it, but from what I've heard, Ed is definitely in the minority with his opinion.
The HUGE minority. He seems to have some sort of hate for the Wii with no real reason. I've read countless peoples' impressions and Ed is literally only the second person to be unimpressed with the Wiimote.
post #134 of 218
Snake and Shamus Unarmored in Super Smash Bros? That is the shizznit.
post #135 of 218
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Originally Posted by Jahn
Snake and Shamus Unarmored in Super Smash Bros? That is the shizznit.
when they zoomed out and showed snake hiding in a box while mario was duking it out, I freakin lost it... GENIUS!
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