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post #31 of 84
I would look into the epos line of speakers, affordable and great sound from what I heard when I auditioned them.
post #32 of 84
My system cost considerably less than US$1,000 and I think it's quite good. It's not impossible to assemble a good-sounding system for under US$1,000, just that there are fewer choices of good components. Personally, it's a much bigger challenge to assemble such a system and I get more satisfaction out of it.
post #33 of 84
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Originally Posted by Alu
Not to sound elitist or anything, but my 1500€ (they cost that much back when I got them 2 or 3 years ago) Bowers & Wilkins lose when I compare them to my 400€ AKG K701! Well, this may be because they are not connected to high-end amps (ROTEL RC-03 and RB-03 combi of around 1000€ together), and you can't really compare speakers and headphones in a reasonable way, but the headphones are much more revealing, much more intimate, and the overall sound is just much better.

Headphones really are tough to beat considering price/performance ratio.
Eh, that's a moot point. I say tomato you say tomato (okay, that doesn't really work when it's typed but you get the idea). I'd take $500 speakers over $1000 headphones any day (well, most days). I prefer the strengths of speakers, you prefer the strengths of headphones. They both have their place. I'll take the realism/soundstage of speakers, you'll take the intimate, revealing nature of headphones. But you're right, things like resolution and detail can be had much cheaper in headphones than in speakers.

But markot86 already has headphones, and now wants speakers.

I personally think the Totem Rainmaker is pretty good, and I like the Epos speakers, but find some speakers to listen to for yourself before buying anything.
post #34 of 84
Thread Starter 
See, this is the funny thing about these kinds of threads because even though I know you all are just trying to do your best to help me, the fact that so many new options are thrown out makes it hard to decide what to do. The number of competitors in the 800 dollar range also make it kind of rediculous as well. How do you all go about actually getting out and listening to this stuff? What kind of companies should I be looking for?
post #35 of 84
JBL 4311's or L100's

or

M-Audio BX8
post #36 of 84
markot86, your best bet is to visit any local audio shops and demo all the speakers you can. You might also want to check out some of the internet direct companies (axiom, ascent acoustics, av123, etc) as many of them have 30-day money back guarantees.
post #37 of 84
I currently live in France, as jj15K, and I will be soon in search of some speakers to be paired with a vintage Marantz amp.

As for what kind of sound I am looking for to obtain from this combination... well... an "Orpheus-kind" of sound would be nice.

The budget is very flexible, I would prefer to spend less than 1000 EUR but I could go higher if really needed. And yes, I am willing to buy used.

Any further suggestions, orientations?
post #38 of 84
There is also one other thing that has to be considered when buying speakers, Floor standers, Bookshelf on stands etc.
Also IF with a partner I don't want to put a damper on things but what you might like (Nice big floor standers) may not fit in with their idea of what would be acceptable in the living room. Fair enough if you have a seperate listening room no problems.
Never underestimate the Wife factor.
BUT do demo as many as you can and consider larger speakers could be overpowering in a smaller room.Percentage of budget assuming you already have the sources would be 75% Speakers 25% Amp. Take some of your favourite music with you as well.
Alright my system might seem abit the other way round when you look at it on paper but I already had the Speakers and workerd for the guy the amp/pre came from so we could check it aginst the references he set every thing up with. it sounds right.
These are my personal thoughts and may be different from others
post #39 of 84
Oh gosh you guys are right! I'm so ignorant! I wasted all this money trying to get good sound. All I needed to do is go to Best Buy, drop $1,500 and I'll have a good system. Wow, am I red-faced. You guys are so smart.

Grow up.
post #40 of 84
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Originally Posted by pawlowski6132
Oh gosh you guys are right! I'm so ignorant! I wasted all this money trying to get good sound. All I needed to do is go to Best Buy, drop $1,500 and I'll have a good system. Wow, am I red-faced. You guys are so smart.

Grow up.
That's not what we're saying. No one said you wasted your money. I don't think that for a second. The gear you have is great, certainly much better than can be had for under $1000. But that doesn't mean that less expensive gear isn't also good. It's not as good by any means. But it is still, absolutely, good. Like I said, I've spent thousands of dollars on my gear (just check my profile). I couldn't get nearly as good sound for much less money. I'm happy with my extra expense, because I think it's worth it. But "cheap" stuff can also be good.

It's not black and white. There are different levels of good sound.

No one is attacking your decision to spend more, because in my opinion it's a good decision. It's just that not everything cheaper than you have is automatically bad, it just isn't as good. There's a big difference.

It's simple. You can have good sound for under $1000. You can have much better sound for more money. End of story. What's there to argue about?
post #41 of 84
And for further kicks - you could always go the full range route - buy a fostex based speaker - or better yet DIY (many sites offer cut panels - simply assemble) - very reasonable on the $ which frees up money for small amps (every hear a good full range with a super T?) or a tube amp - like the onix previously mentioned.

Some love this type of speakers - some hate them - they do somethings better than standard speakers and other things worse.

This compilates things but it's worth knowing the general options (some one already mentioned the Magnepans for the electrostat route - worthy of consideration).
post #42 of 84
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Originally Posted by tennisets
Let me ask you something: What was your first system? I'm guessing you probably didn't jump straight to several Ks worth of gear. Did you think that first system was "mediocre?" Probably not. So stop telling the op that "inexpensive" stuff isn't any good.
I don't know, but us headphone users get pretty spoiled by the sound we can get using cans.

My "hi-fi" speaker buying route started off at around 1K, with PSB's Stratus Mini, and then I gradually worked my way up from there, but along the way I didn't find a single set of speakers I thought were even mediocre. My trip ended at slightly over 2K with PMC's TB2M-Ws with the matching stands, but still think I didn't spend enough to get the sound I wanted. On the other hand, maybe I should have stopped with my first set of speakers, which were the $1K Sony SS-A5Ss. Back then with those speakers I still enjoyed music.

So to the OP: If it don't sound good at the store, no matter what the salesman might tell you and what you might want to believe, it's not going to sound significantly better at home.
post #43 of 84
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Originally Posted by pawlowski6132
Oh gosh you guys are right! I'm so ignorant! I wasted all this money trying to get good sound. All I needed to do is go to Best Buy, drop $1,500 and I'll have a good system. Wow, am I red-faced. You guys are so smart.

Grow up.
No one is saying that. You fail to see good sound is all relative. If the original thread poster only had a $100 mini system. Spending 1000k on components is going to produce spound that is better than what he had experienced before.

For the original poster sorry bout all the arguments (some people feel they need to justify there high end kit and cheaper = bad ). Like some advice that has been given i would go and listen to as much as you can and take advantage of return policies. Your ears will tell you what is 'good' in your budget.
post #44 of 84
Ok. I'll shut up.
post #45 of 84
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Originally Posted by tennisets
(...) I say tomato you say tomato (okay, that doesn't really work when it's typed but you get the idea). (...)
Maybe you should write that as "I say tomayto, you say tomahto" to make it understandable for us foreigners... Took me a while to remember, too.

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Originally Posted by greenhorn
(...) and I will be soon in search of some speakers to be paired with a vintage Marantz amp.
Will that be a comparatively low powered tube Marantz? If you want something from France, especially Triangle is known to have many models that go well with tube amps, but BC Acoustique also does.

Greetings from Hannover!

Manfred / lini
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