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post #31 of 241
Only 2 really,
1) paying off my credit card in full and then going out and spending half the limit on hi-fi/electronics gear.
2) finding this site and getting back into headphones. I am using the main speaker set up even less apart for watching DVD's.

Curse you Head-fi
BTW I have set a budget and WILL stick to it.
post #32 of 241
How about a stickly for this thread.

Above a certain level everything is subjective.

What is that level for me may very well be different for you.
post #33 of 241
Someone's taken the bitter pill I see

I could see it coming after all those sig updates "I shall have X mod in xx/xx/xx" and the, shall we say, 'by the book' mode of behaviour you seem to manifest in the forums (sorry, but it's got to be said). I'm actually quite surprised it took you this long to come to these conclusions.

I agree with many aspects of your post. I'm sorry it's not worked out the way you intended. Clearly you sunk a lot into this hobby and had very good reason to expect more than you got.

But if I was being a bit of a bstd, I could say that you... no, that would be too cruel. I will blame the snake oilers instead. The key is of course not to take it too seriously, do it out of disposable income (with the emphasis on disposable) and give some of the overzealous members here a poke every now and again
post #34 of 241
1. Taking advice from you people!
2. Doing AB tests! Then i find out what all the real differences between amps, cables, and all that other junk are and i can't live with myself if i don't have the better one.
3. I tend to over pay...or give a fair amount for stuff on the FS forum...and then when i go out and sell it people want my 300$ amp for 120$!
4. trading away my HD650 for a month...i miss it soo much. (But i' know i'll be back).
post #35 of 241
1. spend more money it than i should and can afford.

my second mistake is having been thinking perfect and ideal = better, in which case i always have the mindset for triving for this better ideal sound. i've bought headphone and speakers that have this ideal qualities, and they are acclaimed products. usually these qualities are; being more neutral, more flat, more details, more accurate, better depth.

only after a while i realize i hate the sound. cant relax and enjoy it. every human ears frequency curves are different from each other, and even the left ear hear different from the right, and how much you enjoy a specific sound will also depend on your personal characteristics. you're a soft and laid back person, an agressive speakers doesnt suit you. more expensive is not equal to better sounding.

another thing is i dont have to put up with uncomfort to enjoy good sound, aka i dont have to put up with grado fatigue to enjoy its bass, or uncomfortable heavy headphone that strain my neck. comfort is the essential for audio listening. because audio listening, in away is something people call antisocial, (although the correct definition of antisocial mean something else in psychology) a hobby you do to relax and get off the daily stress. i'm not going to make this hobby to cause me more stress, i came to it in the first place to help me get off stress.

the thing i have done right: buy gears that produce sound that is pleasing to me, instead of 'better', pride (feeling of superiority over the others), or good look. also some luck with spending money on underdogs products and being satisfied with them. my way isnt that practical to follow though.

i am an advocate of this sound signature idea, where matching equipments receives different sound. therefor from now on, my audio goal will be syngergy and balance. the idea of wholeness.

being obsess in the sound instead of loving the music is a bad thing.
post #36 of 241
Originally Posted by JaGWiRE
Heh, after a quick glance, looks like you had a lot of fun with some of those EE expressions / equations . I'de say that taking electrical engineering seriously requires a lot of mathematic skills, seriously. Hell, I am sure there are some people who can build amazing stuff, yet can't figure out half of what would be required to know to pass an electrical engineering course.
Depends on what one would call fun.
It doesn't take that much mathematic skills really, most of it is just predesigned formulas which can be adopted easily to fit your needs, and all of it can be found on the internet.

To come back on the mistakes list, I have also spent more on equipment than on audio. Before I got into this hobby all I needed were mp3's. Since then I learned that half the fun of listening a song is in finding it in cd/vynil stores. I was such a fool back then, doing my utmost best to catch up
post #37 of 241
Only two big mistakes, but they're related:

- Upgrading my headphones before my source.
- Believing that "good unamped" is the same as saying "good out of a pcdp"
post #38 of 241
- Believing that "good unamped" is the same as saying "good out of a pcdp"

I'm not understanding this one? Are you saying that you don't always need an amp to enjoy the music?
post #39 of 241
May be this is about to be the biggest mistake I ever make in HiFi, Just listed less then a hour ago, sure does hurt LINK
post #40 of 241
I don't have ten yet, but a few that come to mind:

1) HD590s.
2) Thinking something was wrong with me for not liking the HD590s, so I tried out HD595s. Same effect, ZzzzZZzzzzzz...
3) Selling my HP-2s.
4) Buying a MD player.
5) Spending $350 dollars on a 512MB MP3 player back when they first came out.

Other than those, everything else has been smooth sailing for me.
post #41 of 241
Originally Posted by meat01
I'm not understanding this one? Are you saying that you don't always need an amp to enjoy the music?
No, I'm saing that some headphones that have a reputation as being "good unamped" sounded horrible to me out of my pcdps. The HF-1 (out of both Panasonic CT579v and Sony DNE330) sounded neutered and bass-less. I'm thinking that maybe they meant "unamped out of the headphone jack of my Marantz CDP" which is a lot different than a $50 pcdp.
post #42 of 241
Originally Posted by meat01
I'm not understanding this one? Are you saying that you don't always need an amp to enjoy the music?
I think it might mean that some headphone might be "good unamped" out of a home receiver, but not out of a pcdp.
post #43 of 241
I think the most important thing in this hobby is to audition the gear that you actually consider buying. Comparing it to other gear or to one's current setup, to see whether there really is a difference that's worth spending money on.
post #44 of 241
I agree with a lot of your original post...

here are some of the things I regret

-not spending more on cd's. I only own about 100-150, whereas I have about $7000 invested in my equipment

-thinking tubes were some sort of magic, I now realize whatever warm characteristics tube equipment possesed could be emulated with a tube buffer stage, and it is so much more hassle free to own solid state equipment.

-believing in the power cable hype, spending $100 on a power cable thats as thick as a snake and doesn't make any difference.

-not spending more on room acoustics. surprisingly this yielded the best results, beyond any equipment upgrades. It is hard to justify bringing home $300 worth of fiberglass batting, versus a nice shiny component.
post #45 of 241
Originally Posted by Welly Wu
What are your top 10 mistakes in getting involved in this hobby?
Modifications of stock equipment. This has got to be the best marketing scam in the history of high end audio. Sell them something that can not possibly work as advertised and then sell them dubious upgrades that can not only possibly work but will void their warranty for the product. When I upgraded my BPT A/C cord and unit, that is a perfect example. When I modified my Pioneer Elite DV-59AVi, I simply spent more money to improve the performance of features that I no longer listen or watch. Great. I must have an inverse IQ curve. ...
Welly, I've GOT to ask you about this one. I remember your putting Head-Fi on "official notice" about the date when you were going to send your Pioneer to Modwright, and then your lengthy review of the Pioneer when it came back. I remember that you'd said that Modwright had transformed it from a piece of audio gear into a musical instrument in its own right which delivered, not just better sound, but conveyed the essential emotion and feel of the music. Your impression of the modded equipment was that you'd obtained a tool which would allow you to experience the art in the music in a way which had been lacking previously.

This impression has transformed over time to modded equipment as one of your top ten mistakes.

In what steps (based on what observations or assessments) did this transformation take place? BTW, I'm not asking this to challenge anything you've just posted. I own no modded stock equipment and I'm by no means trying to defend that practice. I'm interested in (and it may be informative to other Head-Fiers) the process you went through by which your initial assessment of your modded equipment has become your latest assessment.
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