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post #76 of 216
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Originally Posted by bonethugz
i got a, is it called silver connecter too. it seems like, the sound are cleaner. even more alive. one question though, is it possible that this little cable can make sound louder? i have a pa2v2, i usually turn to around, five to(as a clock) and now about a quarter to.
Immediately, upon first hearing my new Silk Dock, my very first impression was that the music seemed louder and there was more bass. After a short time I realized that it was the presentation delivered from this cable that was better. The individual parts are more realized, more defined. Wider and deeper soundstage. There is more air and better texture, no veil. More highs and better bass extension. I think all this makes it seem louder.

I too listen to my music at lower volumes with all of my LODs. Because the notes sound richer and fuller and I can hear all kinds of micro textures, lower volumes satisfy me in a kind of silky smooth way.
post #77 of 216
So I stand corrected in light of these two posts.

I guess silver is just of a more 'open' material?
post #78 of 216
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Originally Posted by AtheisticFreedom
So I stand corrected in light of these two posts.

I guess silver is just of a more 'open' material?
I don't think it's just a matter of silver being a more open material. That Cyro you're targeting is stranded copper and it sounds to my ears as good as high quality silver. To me it actaully rivals the Cotton Dock.
post #79 of 216
You guys are gonna make me second guess my purchase of the Bling Bling.
post #80 of 216
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Originally Posted by AtheisticFreedom
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I guess silver is just of a more 'open' material?
I understand how one might come to that conclusion from reading all the silver love in this thread, but keep in mind, the conductor itself is only part of the total equation. No less important in determining the final sound are insulation, shielding, construction geometry, solder, technique, and plugs/jacks.

Many well respected authorities in the audio world claim that silver is not a good conductor to use for audio. I personally do not subscribe to that sentiment as a generalization, and I would encourage you to keep your options open as well.

The bottom line is how good something sounds with the system in which it is being used. Consider, for example, the ALO Cryo dock. Multi-stranded conductors in teflon insulators. Both no-no's in many people's play books on cable construction. One cannot, however, argue with the sound of said Cryo dock. The sound is remarkable, and the conductors are copper. To my ears, the Cryo dock sounds quite a bit better than the solid silver in teflon docks, and better than any other copper based interconnect I've ever heard for that matter.
post #81 of 216
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Originally Posted by GIGANTOID
You guys are gonna make me second guess my purchase of the Bling Bling.
If it sounds good to your ears, then know that you've made a good decision and enjoy! One factor in this "sound" equation we've not discussed overly much is system synergy. I suspect that there are certain components when paired, sound better with the Bling Blings, than many other ALO LODs.
post #82 of 216
As of yesterday, I've found myself in the position to compare various incarnations of the Audiolineoutdock. Since exposure to a loud sound-system has necessitated a rest for my ears, I haven't gotten involved in rigorous testing. Even so, I can make a few cursory observations:

Listening to Bill Evans's Waltz for Debby, I can hear a distinct difference between the Cotton Dock and a Turbodock III with Turbo-confected cable. Even so, I'm not certain everyone would hear the difference or benefit from it over time. Because the Turbo configuration is brighter, a case could be made that the Cotton Dock is less fatiguing. Then again, some listeners favor a brighter sound. For them, the upgrade might not be necessary.

However:

Auditioning the top-of-the-line Singlepower at the National Meet has changed the way I evaluate reference audio equipment. In the past, I'd have associated a brighter sound with the brutal truth, and demanded that a brittle recording be reproduced in all its excruciating glory. However, hearing the Maestro ZR has afforded deep bass and balanced highs a loftier place in my reference criteria. There seems to be nothing particularly objective about privileging metallic sources and harsher setups. If anything, one dulls the mix slightly to compensate for shrill-sounding kit.

I still intend to check mixes against pedestrian equipment to be certain they translate to ordinary consumers' setups (perhaps my democratic/populist leanings are showing). But from now on, I'll bring whatever is necessary to allow my engineers to tune tracking and mixes to higher end equipment.

Which brings me to this brief observation re the Cotton Dock and Turbo Dock II/Turbo cable:

After a few auriclings, I realized the Cotton Dock's bass response is reliably deeper, its mids, more evenly spread, its highs, more balanced, than those of the Turbo or any other iPod setup I've ever heard. This is not the result of some pleasing form of degradation. No veil or visor has been placed over the iPod's highs; rather, the other frequencies are now more balanced in proportion. (I'd love to know how a mere cable accomplishes this.)

With the Turbodock, Evans's high runs and glissandos have an attractive sparkle that puts one in mind of an 80s Yamaha grand, with its deliberately thin shellacking and shallow-felted hammers. The upright bass sounds articulate and deep; sadly, the cymbals and hi-hat still seem digital casualties.

With the Cotton Dock, however, the piano resonates more deeply and its attack acquires mediating overtones. The upright bass, while retaining articulation in the high attack transients, now plunges deeper. Those glitttering brass plates sound far less grating, though no less accurate.

Greater time with these cables will reveal whether any of my impressions are qualified by the placebo glitz effect (Ken's cables look beautiful and are expensive, therefore, one wants them to sound the best). However, my initial experience suggests the Cotton Dock's superiority is not some case of audiophile voodoo. I'm not even going to address the difference between the Zu Mobius Pivot and Ken's Cotton dock-to-RCA LOD yet. The LOD sounded leagues better than the Pivot through my XP-7, but I need more time with that setup to pinpoint the reasons for the difference.

These observations are perfunctory and might change over time. I haven't even contacted the manufacturer about any of this yet: I wanted to post here first, since I imagine he'd prefer it that way.
post #83 of 216
Ah, scrypt...
Welcome to ALO and sorry about your wallet, as they say...

I'm looking forward to your developing opinion, as I always value the musician's ear. Your reference to an '80's Yamaha grand brought back memories. Always was a thin sounding piano. Definitely at the opposite end of the spectrum from a Bosendorfer Concert Grand. Steinways are bright without sounding thin. Young Chang sounds fairly nice too, but has a soft pin block and won't stay in tune even after one spirited playing.

Thanks for the ALO impressions thus far.
post #84 of 216
I haven't seen anyone show this angle and maybe it'll help people decide if size is an issue as it was with me.



Pictured is the ALO Cryo Dock and the Sendstation PocketDOck USB with HeadRoom basic 12" mini.
post #85 of 216
Also I'm the proud new owner of a baby Cryo Dock called Gladys.
post #86 of 216
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Originally Posted by B-side J
Just so any X5 users out there don't feel left out ALO also makes LODs for us!
I have both a copper and pure silver version which I am going to review along side a Zynsonix, and a Qables LOD.

So far though, Ken's cables are really great, and I'm sure the sound sig is reativly the same as the ipod LODs. Personaly I like the copper so far but havent logged much time with the silver.I just have to wait for the qables one to arrive and I'll do a full write up!
Have you done that review yet?

I just bought a Qables on sale for $20.....

Its the one with the straight neutrik connector... so pretty much top quality.....

Wanted to how it sounded compared to ALO..... even though it would just be hurting myself.... since I just got mine for $25 and I don't think I could have gotten anything from ALO for less than double that..... so I consider it a good deal. Please say it sounds the same
post #87 of 216
Thread Starter 
Can someone please review the Cryo dock? It looks so good! Does it sound as good? Greatful if you can compare it with other LODs too, eg ALO Cotton, Silk, Qcable, TURBO, etc...
post #88 of 216
I dont have the ears to do so. But there DEFINITELY is a thread abot it and its mentioned often in this thread. Do a search and you'll find the info.
post #89 of 216
Thread Starter 
Found it. Thanks a lot. Looks like the Cotton dock is still the king with the Silk and Cryo docks coming in at a close second and third. ALO's docks seem to be the best that the "industry" has to offer at the moment.

Anyone know if the Cotton and Silk docks are too bulky for use with the Hornet?
post #90 of 216
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Originally Posted by milkpowder
Found it. Thanks a lot. Looks like the Cotton dock is still the king with the Silk and Cryo docks coming in at a close second and third. ALO's docks seem to be the best that the "industry" has to offer at the moment.

Anyone know if the Cotton and Silk docks are too bulky for use with the Hornet?
If the Hornet is about the size of a Xin Supermacro (my yardstick) you should have no problem if you stack the iPod on top of it. You can then band them together (polybands work well) or you could velcro. Ken at ALO actually has a picture of his velcro solution up on his website, although I don't remember which amp he shows. The cotton really does rule.
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