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post #31 of 216

ALO Silk dock

I had the opportunity yesterday to listen to a new ALO LOD using the same materials as the cotton, save for the insulators, which were made from silk in this case rather than cotton. I almost forgot, the actual connector that plugs into the iPod is different too. Overall, the silk dock is mechanically more compact and flexible than the cotton dock, which is on the bulky side. I will post pictures when I get a chance.

Of all of the LOD's that I've heard, the silk is so close in sonic signature to the cotton docks that I am still haveing trouble in articulating the differences that I hear, so I'm going to ramble for a bit.

At this point, for lack of better words, I would say that the silk dock has a little more of that "ringing" characteristic that I hear with the silver dock than does the cotton. The cotton dock has absolutely all of the extension and detail of the silver, but is so completely controlled, whereas the silver dock seems to be "wild" and undamped in the extreme high end.

Listening to high frequency program material you hear everything with both cotton and silver docks, but it seems as the silver dock adds a very small element of its own sheen to the sound. In complex passages, massed strings for example, with the cotton dock, you hear only and exactly what the source provided, so instrument to instrument seperation is ever so slightly better. Nothing more, nothing less. The silk dock seems to fall in between the very subtle "extremes." I struggle with this word "extreme" because many would not hear the subtle differences we're talking about here, at least they would not notice them. The differences, I assure you ARE there.

Please understand I am trying to describe very, very, subtle differences here.

Let me try one more time to describe what I hear. In terms of general characterization, starting with the copper dock as the baseline, the sound is full and articulate, and cleaner than anything I've ever heard come out of an Ipod. The silver docks seem to add a subtle sheen to the top end. Many will find this very desirable. The Cardas seems to have ever so slightly more top end detail and more fullness than the copper dock but without the sheen of the silver dock. The Cardas dock retains all of the fullness of the copper dock, whereas the silver dock seems like the fullness is slightly diminished in balance to the high end.

The cotton dock has all of the copper and Cardas dock's fullness and then some, plus it has the added detail of the silver dock without the added sheen. The silk dock falls in between, being much closer to the cotton dock in character than to the copper dock. The Cardas dock to my ears, is closer to the copper dock in character, but clearly better than the copper.

I hope I have not managed to confuse any of you. These ALO products are all top notch and even the least of them will give you better sound than you have ever heard from your iPod. I dare say, you wont believe your ears at first because the sound is that good.
post #32 of 216
Just so any X5 users out there don't feel left out ALO also makes LODs for us!
I have both a copper and pure silver version which I am going to review along side a Zynsonix, and a Qables LOD.

So far though, Ken's cables are really great, and I'm sure the sound sig is reativly the same as the ipod LODs. Personaly I like the copper so far but havent logged much time with the silver.I just have to wait for the qables one to arrive and I'll do a full write up!
post #33 of 216
Here's some pictures of the LOD gear I have:
Click here for a slide show of all photos.

Here's a pic of Cotton Dock and the Silk Dock:

Cotton dock on top, Silk dock on bottom.
It's maybe not abundantly clear from the photos, but the silk dock is more flexible and compact than the cotton dock.

Here you see the docking connectors side by side:

Cotton on left, silk on right. Note that the connector on the silk cable is slightly more compact and shielded.

I also bought a cotton dock with RCA on one end so I could conveniently drive the Max and Aria from the iPod. I plan to keep one of my Arias at my office and the iPod will probably be my main source there.



Nice locking RCA connectors.


Need I mention that it sounds great?
post #34 of 216
Will the silk docks be the same price as the cotton docks?
post #35 of 216
I looked at his site this morning and saw that he already had them listed at the same price as the cotton dock.
post #36 of 216
I ordered the Silk Dock, and got it in record time!!!! Only problem is, I don't have an amp to try it out with at the moment! I will tell you that it looks just like the picture above, VERY nice quality/construction, and it is very flexible (much more so than I thought).
post #37 of 216
my gawd man. get an amp!
I found that a decent portable amp made a huge diff. with iPod 4G and
HF-1's (I'm talkin' a Go-Vibe V4). I recently added a Silver ALO LOD and
have been stunned and craving more. You may have some eargasm's coming and I congratulate you on the Silk LOD!
post #38 of 216
Yes, totally congratulations on the new cotton doc.

Dude, get an amp already!!!
post #39 of 216
i ordered a cotton dock about a week ago and it came in within 3 days! funny thing is i don't have an amp either! i ordered a PA2v2 a week before the cotton dock and it still hasn't come in yet!

anyways, can't wait to try them both out... hopefully this will complete my amateur portable rig setup.
post #40 of 216
Quote:
Originally Posted by kwkarth
Dude, get an amp already!!!
The Hornet landed today!!! Listening to it with my Silk Doc, 5G Ipod, and ER-4P w/ S adaptor. A little Stevie Ray Vaughan (Pride and Joy from MTV Unplugged). Sounds amazing I am going to let them burn in together
post #41 of 216
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffreyj900
The Hornet landed today!!! Listening to it with my Silk Doc, 5G Ipod, and ER-4P w/ S adaptor. A little Stevie Ray Vaughan (Pride and Joy from MTV Unplugged). Sounds amazing I am going to let them burn in together
make sure you give us some intial impressions of them!
post #42 of 216
I liked the Cardas AudioLineOut Dock so much I bought a Silk Dock.

The construction and materials quality is excellent. The cable covering looks a bit similar to the RnB Black Diamond mini-mini cable. The silver mini plug is huge; it connects fine to the Hornet's line in.

Even without much burn-in time, I think it sounds better than the Cardas ALO, as well as the TURBOdock II and RnB Black Diamond combination. I was surprised by the difference, because I thought my other docks/cables sounded pretty good already.

I use the docks and cables with a 5G iPod playing ALAC and a Hornet.
post #43 of 216
Amazing, isn't it? How 3" of interconnect can make such a huge difference in sound still amazes me.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elephas
I liked the Cardas AudioLineOut Dock so much I bought a Silk Dock.

The construction and materials quality is excellent. The cable covering looks a bit similar to the RnB Black Diamond mini-mini cable. The silver mini plug is huge; it connects fine to the Hornet's line in.

Even without much burn-in time, I think it sounds better than the Cardas ALO, as well as the TURBOdock II and RnB Black Diamond combination. I was surprised by the difference, because I thought my other docks/cables sounded pretty good already.

I use the docks and cables with a 5G iPod playing ALAC and a Hornet.
post #44 of 216
Connected to iPod and amp: AudioLineOut Silk Dock

Left: TURBOdock III and TURBO orange mini-mini cable

Right: TURBOdock III and RnB Black Diamond mini-mini cable



I like the Silk Dock the most.
post #45 of 216
Looking at the Blingbling vs. the copper LOD from Ken. For $45 they seem a bargain for my gym workouts in a Headroom bag with Portaphile and Ipod. Usual cable is Silver Dragon.

Now the question: which has the better sound? Soundstage, overall presence, etc.?? I know how silver sounds, since I have the Dragon, but am totally unfamiliar with copper. Help please
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