Best sounding MP3-player - Page 7

well...imo this is a forum for people to share thoughts in information and "hopefully" things can stay neutral so the many others who come here to read can get actual and unbiased views...thus as long as something that does not seem/sound right comes along that might tend to be misleading, of course it would draw some flak...

as far as taking things personal, I think its those who think they are the all mighty matured SQ all important, design features are for kids, people here are kids, Im here to enlighten people people attitude thats taking it personal as they do not want to be assiociated with something that most people have for its looks...just look at all the smileys you got and all these mentioning of you laughing at the rest, arent you trying too hard to be different?

granted the previous generations of ipods do sound lousy, the 5g IS much better sounding, even if most poeple do not care that much since they listen to downloaded music...but that does not deserve it to be discounted anyhow...

adopting the " everyone else is ignorant except me" attitude naturally draws flak, even in head-fi which imo is rather an unbiased forum...try saying this at ilounge and you can see what fanboys really say...

many of the replies here dosent say that the ipod sounds better than the monolith, in fact its also quite widely acknowledged that it dosent sound as good as iriver/iaudio, etc...they are just trying to correct this biased opinion against something thats potentially good for the tonnes of other people who read here but do not post, it is the misleading statement you made that is causing so much unrest, but it seem like YOU have began to take this personally treating people here as kids asking them to grow up to YOUR level of thinking...

and guess what...I dont own an ipod...

Jeez, flame war erupting, is it? Chill out, people! It's just music devices, nothing of genuine merit to argue over. Give it a rest, everyone. It's Friday night, and there's fun to be had, not a forum brawl

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Abe

The reason it has got peoples backs up isn't because they're fan boys, its because you're questioning their preferences / hearing abilities...

I myself use the 5G, remote and Shure E5C, and i've yet to hear SIGNIFICANTLY better out of any other combo - sure, there is "different" out there, but i'm not so sure about better...

Anyways... if this thread goes any further into a flame war, it'll be closed down... no need for it

I don't even own an iPod (and never have), But the way he's phrasing his comments is clearly directed towards igniting a reaction from people.

let it be. you guys now how the song goes. all you need is love.

That's a rather an ignorant post you've made. Of course it offends people.
There are many people including audiophiles that prefer the iPod over the others. I mean I don't even use iPod, but I still acknowledge and respect those of who thinks that iPod SQ are superior to players from other various companies (ie. iRiver, Creative). The sound is much more neutral and less musical to me, which I don't like either, but still holding its substantial SQ as a DAP.

just for the record, most of those who replied(inc. me) dont even own ipods more less are ipod fanboys...some of the comments you made were just rather provocative, so were some of the replies...

lets leave this thread to rest for the greater good of the forum...its just a no brainer comment that was badly interpreted...

Thank you for the sincere reply, No harm done

You can't control what people post on the web, or inresponse to a post. Its like trying to stop the tide with a bucket and spade. No discussion of MP3 players and SQ can avoid discussing the iPod. Its so popular thats its a reasonable benchmark simply because lots of people have heard it.

Your posts lack credibility, mainly because here, theres a consensus that the iPods have decent SQ via a line out, and the iPod Shuffle is well regarded aswell. 5G seems much improved. If you are going to start by dismissing the general opinion then you're going to be called on it.

I would say that most would consider Creative products, to have consistently better SQ than an iPod,, via earphone at least. Nothing ordinary about them.

My reference is blind ABX testing with my ears and those of anyone else I can grab whos half interested when I'm testing. Creative only have a small % of the MP3 player market, so I would happy say their SQ is "out of the ordinary" by that criteria.

SgtE,

Sorry but I have to agree with Bangraman here.. I have owned mx500 buds and they are totally crap from top to bottom. Build quality is **** and so is the sound. If sound quality is so important to you then you wouldn't be using the mx500 to begin with.

At least I wouldn't trust myself to make a valid judgement on any source/player with the mx500's. And that's my honest opinion, I am not a ipod fanboy, don't even own one.

EDIT: omg you can't say sh1t here? hehe

I love the sound of the mx500's, They are just fun, but for serious listening they aren't good enough...

I'm planning on buying something better, I am thinking of the senn px100's or the akg k24p.
I read somewhere that the AKG's have a more balanced sound...