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post #91 of 143
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Originally Posted by Cjattwood
I can see you're going to get along well with the people of this forum (or not)...
Personally I feel it is unbelievable that someone can get this offended by: "ipod fans don't bother posting[...]". I mean grow up. Ok the sentance was a little sparky (at most), but seriously, if someone were to write - monolith sucks!, would I write hate messages to this guy? NO! I would probably just laugh in silence but you guys go berserk and do all you can to protect your baby company apple...., and take every opportunity to rank down on me.
Stop whining about that the ipod doesn't measure up against the monolith (even when listening thru line out). Listen to the monolith instead, you might want to change company to cheer on after you've heard it!

*and I hope this doesn't change our future correspondence cause I plan to stay on here for a while*
post #92 of 143
well...imo this is a forum for people to share thoughts in information and "hopefully" things can stay neutral so the many others who come here to read can get actual and unbiased views...thus as long as something that does not seem/sound right comes along that might tend to be misleading, of course it would draw some flak...

as far as taking things personal, I think its those who think they are the all mighty matured SQ all important, design features are for kids, people here are kids, Im here to enlighten people people attitude thats taking it personal as they do not want to be assiociated with something that most people have for its looks...just look at all the smileys you got and all these mentioning of you laughing at the rest, arent you trying too hard to be different?

granted the previous generations of ipods do sound lousy, the 5g IS much better sounding, even if most poeple do not care that much since they listen to downloaded music...but that does not deserve it to be discounted anyhow...

adopting the " everyone else is ignorant except me" attitude naturally draws flak, even in head-fi which imo is rather an unbiased forum...try saying this at ilounge and you can see what fanboys really say...

many of the replies here dosent say that the ipod sounds better than the monolith, in fact its also quite widely acknowledged that it dosent sound as good as iriver/iaudio, etc...they are just trying to correct this biased opinion against something thats potentially good for the tonnes of other people who read here but do not post, it is the misleading statement you made that is causing so much unrest, but it seem like YOU have began to take this personally treating people here as kids asking them to grow up to YOUR level of thinking...

and guess what...I dont own an ipod...
post #93 of 143
Jeez, flame war erupting, is it? Chill out, people! It's just music devices, nothing of genuine merit to argue over. Give it a rest, everyone. It's Friday night, and there's fun to be had, not a forum brawl

,
Abe
post #94 of 143
Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtE
Personally I feel it is unbelievable that someone can get this offended by: "ipod fans don't bother posting[...]". I mean grow up. Ok the sentance was a little sparky (at most), but seriously, if someone were to write - monolith sucks!, would I write hate messages to this guy? NO! I would probably just laugh in silence but you guys go berserk and do all you can to protect your baby company apple...., and take every opportunity to rank down on me.
Stop whining about that the ipod doesn't measure up against the monolith (even when listening thru line out). Listen to the monolith instead, you might want to change company to cheer on after you've heard it!

*and I hope this doesn't change our future correspondence cause I plan to stay on here for a while*
The reason it has got peoples backs up isn't because they're fan boys, its because you're questioning their preferences / hearing abilities...

I myself use the 5G, remote and Shure E5C, and i've yet to hear SIGNIFICANTLY better out of any other combo - sure, there is "different" out there, but i'm not so sure about better...

Anyways... if this thread goes any further into a flame war, it'll be closed down... no need for it
post #95 of 143
I don't even own an iPod (and never have), But the way he's phrasing his comments is clearly directed towards igniting a reaction from people.
post #96 of 143
let it be. you guys now how the song goes. all you need is love.
post #97 of 143
Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtE
Personally I feel it is unbelievable that someone can get this offended by: "ipod fans don't bother posting[...]".
That's a rather an ignorant post you've made. Of course it offends people.
There are many people including audiophiles that prefer the iPod over the others. I mean I don't even use iPod, but I still acknowledge and respect those of who thinks that iPod SQ are superior to players from other various companies (ie. iRiver, Creative). The sound is much more neutral and less musical to me, which I don't like either, but still holding its substantial SQ as a DAP.
post #98 of 143
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Originally Posted by PrototypeX2
That's a rather an ignorant post you've made. Of course it offends people.
...those of who thinks that iPod SQ are superior to players from other various companies (ie. iRiver, Creative).
Well, maybe ipod has superior sq when compared to creative and other ordinary, mainstream brands - but not superior to all...
All I'm saying is - try and listen to Monolith - I am sure you will change your opinion regarding the ipod after this. With a flat eq, the sq (to me) is far above the sq of eg x5 with bbe activated. Music through monolith sound like the musicians wanted it to sound, nothing more nothing less.

But this is tiring to write, I never wanted a flamewar against ipod-fans, only to know what you considered to be the best sounding mp3-player. I was kind of hoping someone would recommend something out of the ordinary, but no one did so I stick with the monolith. sorry if I offended anyone, truly, it never was my aim to do so.
post #99 of 143
just for the record, most of those who replied(inc. me) dont even own ipods more less are ipod fanboys...some of the comments you made were just rather provocative, so were some of the replies...

lets leave this thread to rest for the greater good of the forum...its just a no brainer comment that was badly interpreted...
post #100 of 143
Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtE
Well, maybe ipod has superior sq when compared to creative and other ordinary, mainstream brands - but not superior to all...
All I'm saying is - try and listen to Monolith - I am sure you will change your opinion regarding the ipod after this. With a flat eq, the sq (to me) is far above the sq of eg x5 with bbe activated. Music through monolith sound like the musicians wanted it to sound, nothing more nothing less.

But this is tiring to write, I never wanted a flamewar against ipod-fans, only to know what you considered to be the best sounding mp3-player. I was kind of hoping someone would recommend something out of the ordinary, but no one did so I stick with the monolith. sorry if I offended anyone, truly, it never was my aim to do so.
Thank you for the sincere reply, No harm done
post #101 of 143
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Originally Posted by SgtE
....I never wanted a flamewar against ipod-fans, only to know what you considered to be the best sounding mp3-player....
You can't control what people post on the web, or inresponse to a post. Its like trying to stop the tide with a bucket and spade. No discussion of MP3 players and SQ can avoid discussing the iPod. Its so popular thats its a reasonable benchmark simply because lots of people have heard it.

Your posts lack credibility, mainly because here, theres a consensus that the iPods have decent SQ via a line out, and the iPod Shuffle is well regarded aswell. 5G seems much improved. If you are going to start by dismissing the general opinion then you're going to be called on it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtE
Well, maybe ipod has superior sq when compared to creative and other ordinary, mainstream brands ....
I would say that most would consider Creative products, to have consistently better SQ than an iPod,, via earphone at least. Nothing ordinary about them.
post #102 of 143
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Originally Posted by Sparky191
I would say that most would consider Creative products, to have consistently better SQ than an iPod,, via earphone at least. Nothing ordinary about them.
I don't know what your reference of quality is, but to me, they make pretty ordinary products. Name one of their product that is out of the ordinary...
post #103 of 143
Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtE
I don't know what your reference of quality is, but to me, they make pretty ordinary products. Name one of their product that is out of the ordinary...
My reference is blind ABX testing with my ears and those of anyone else I can grab whos half interested when I'm testing. Creative only have a small % of the MP3 player market, so I would happy say their SQ is "out of the ordinary" by that criteria.
post #104 of 143
SgtE,

Sorry but I have to agree with Bangraman here.. I have owned mx500 buds and they are totally crap from top to bottom. Build quality is **** and so is the sound. If sound quality is so important to you then you wouldn't be using the mx500 to begin with.

At least I wouldn't trust myself to make a valid judgement on any source/player with the mx500's. And that's my honest opinion, I am not a ipod fanboy, don't even own one.

EDIT: omg you can't say sh1t here? hehe
post #105 of 143
I love the sound of the mx500's, They are just fun, but for serious listening they aren't good enough...

I'm planning on buying something better, I am thinking of the senn px100's or the akg k24p.
I read somewhere that the AKG's have a more balanced sound...
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