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post #121 of 143
>_< where can I listen to Samsung J70?? I have no idea unless I go to KOrea... What is left for me is just reviews on people living in Asia and Europe who own them....I am currently waiting for the new Samsung hard drive base player and we'll see how it goes.
post #122 of 143
Being one of the first kids on the block to own an Ipod, a few years ago if you'd asked, I would have said Ipod(ofcouse). But about a year ago I used a
Archos mp3 player and have to say it sounded better than my Ipod. I still
like Sony's Atrac better than anything else but Sony wont let me use Atrac on my Mac, so no Atrac for me. In a year or two when I replace my G5 with an
intel/Mac, I'll go back to Sony. The Archos is way to much money!

Got my first Sony MD in 93 and love the MD Atrac sound.
post #123 of 143
Quote:
Originally Posted by BennyBoy
Being one of the first kids on the block to own an Ipod, a few years ago if you'd asked, I would have said Ipod(ofcouse). But about a year ago I used a
Archos mp3 player and have to say it sounded better than my Ipod. I still
like Sony's Atrac better than anything else but Sony wont let me use Atrac on my Mac, so no Atrac for me. In a year or two when I replace my G5 with an
intel/Mac, I'll go back to Sony. The Archos is way to much money!

Got my first Sony MD in 93 and love the MD Atrac sound.
The new HiMD RH1 is rumoured to have full Mac support for the first time.
http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showtopic=14814
post #124 of 143
Quote:
Originally Posted by BennyBoy
Being one of the first kids on the block to own an Ipod, a few years ago if you'd asked, I would have said Ipod(ofcouse). But about a year ago I used a
Archos mp3 player and have to say it sounded better than my Ipod. I still
like Sony's Atrac better than anything else but Sony wont let me use Atrac on my Mac, so no Atrac for me. In a year or two when I replace my G5 with an
intel/Mac, I'll go back to Sony. The Archos is way to much money!

Got my first Sony MD in 93 and love the MD Atrac sound.

There have been several different iPods since then in case you weren't aware
post #125 of 143
Quote:
Originally Posted by bangraman
There have been several different iPods since then in case you weren't aware
I love my iPod Shuffle!
post #126 of 143
I have four iPods... two 5g 60 gig videos, a 4g 60 gig photo and a 3g 30 gig. All of them have sound quality as good as my home CD player with lossless files. They vary in the way they react to big home cans... the more recent ones are better than the 3g. But with amping, they are all just as good.

The key to sound quality with an iPod has very little to do with the iPod itself. It's either finding a good match between headphones and iPod- or amping, and encoding at a bitrate that doesn't muck up the sound.

See ya
Steve
post #127 of 143
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigshot
It's either finding a good match between headphones and iPod
I could say some players (a list which doesn't include the Monolith, ZVM or the X5 for example) have more stability in their behaviour with certain (I'll have to say almost invariably low-end) head/earphones. Most people who may say they care about sound quality but in reality haven't a clue where to start looking would not bother with the matching, etc. And they might indeed consider the more stable source (which may be lower in SQ, not that they would be able to tell with a cheap phone) which allows a far larger degree of sonic colouring (BBE, SRS-WOW, Trubass, Mach3Bass, etc) as "better quality".


I think part of the reason why you do get a slightly better balance on here as opposed to some other manufacturer-specific forums is due to a far bigger portion of people on Head-Fi actually owning decent headgear and being able to judge sound quality to a sufficient degree.
post #128 of 143
Quote:
Originally Posted by BennyBoy
I still
like Sony's Atrac better than anything else but Sony wont let me use Atrac on my Mac, so no Atrac for me. In a year or two when I replace my G5 with an
intel/Mac, I'll go back to Sony. The Archos is way to much money!

Got my first Sony MD in 93 and love the MD Atrac sound.
Have you compared the latest ATRAC incarnation against the best of current AAC and MP3?

If not, please do - you could be positively surprised.

I've done the comparison myself (double blind) and for me, Atrac is the worst currently available.

YMMV, of course.
post #129 of 143
My friend just got a 5G video ipod and asked me to put in some songs for him. I took the liberty to test out the sound quality differences with his ipod and my vaio pocket and NWHD1. I used my UE5s to test it out.

The Sony NWHD1 with mp3 firmware with the digital preset sounded the best, and even without any EQ it still sounded better than the Ipod with or without EQ. The Ipod with EQ sounded horrible. I guess that's why so many ppl get amps for their Ipod. The Vaio pocket was still better than the Ipod with and without EQ, but didn't compare to the digital EQ on the NWHD1. I would have to agree that IPOD interface is very easy to use and the sony ones are not half as good, but since I care more about sound, I don't mind pressing a few more buttons.

I'm not saying the NW-HD1 is the best sounding MP3 player because I have not tried all MP3 player. But of all the ones I have tried it is the best(i've tried 4G Ipod, 5Gipod, various Rios, Dell DJ(believe uses same DSP as Creative), MROBE.
post #130 of 143
getting an amp to replace for Ipod inferior EQ doesnt help... even lineout as well, perhaps there's a little improvement with lineout but seriously not much. Im planning to buy monolith premium while waiting for the new Cowon X series or Samsung hard drive based player.

Where can I buy monolith in USA ?
post #131 of 143
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbintoro
getting an amp to replace for Ipod inferior EQ doesnt help... even lineout as well, perhaps there's a little improvement with lineout but seriously not much. Im planning to buy monolith premium while waiting for the new Cowon X series or Samsung hard drive based player.

Where can I buy monolith in USA ?
Its funny how far some people will go to stay away from (in this case) Apple.

You haven't heard either of the the other players that you're looking for, yet you know already that the Apple is the 'inferior' product...

That isn't knowledge, thats placebo - and placebo can be a very dangerous thing
post #132 of 143
I havent tried them but Im pretty sure that the sound quality of Cowon and Samsung is better because I have tried the old version. I have a bad experience with Ipod and so left my hopes with other brands believing that they are better from my experience and reviews from people all over the world. You should read more Duncan.
post #133 of 143
Quote:
Originally Posted by halcyon
Have you compared the latest ATRAC incarnation against the best of current AAC and MP3?

If not, please do - you could be positively surprised.

I've done the comparison myself (double blind) and for me, Atrac is the worst currently available.

YMMV, of course.
ATRAC sounds good. But I prefer the sound of my Shuffle and Zen Micro with high bitrate MP3 to ATRAC 352/256 on my HiMD. Perhaps its how the devices "colour" the sound, I don't know. I'm only using low end headphones so maybe thats part of it. The HiMD is a fantastic recorder though.
post #134 of 143
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Originally Posted by dbintoro
You should read more Duncan.
I should?

I don't really know what to say to that lol...

Erm... Ok, I'll go swat up - on what, I don't know, but what I can say from my own experience - with the 5G ipod, is that there is only at best the smallest of differences between all the players on the field these days, unlike 2-3 years ago when ipods were mass marketed POS that sold by name alone...

Now, the only thing you can pull me up on here is that Apple use crapola EQ - luckily for me, i don't ever need to use it, but - I do know that it sucks lol.

So, yes - If EQ'ing is your game, there is better out there, but from a purely technical standpoint, I think you'd find that the players of 2006 are much closer in sound / ability than you realise.
post #135 of 143
Yes i agree with what you said.. if EQ is off... there is only a slight difference in the SQ amon mp3 players. However these mp3 players have different capability in their EQ. You should read the thread i posted earlier on http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showt...=174215&page=3

I hope it makes sense.
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