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post #16 of 26
3/17/06 at 12:51pm
I still like the (wee bit of) extra resolution and energy from the Silver Dragon, but will always keep the BDv2 in close reserve.
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post #17 of 26
3/17/06 at 1:40pm
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post #18 of 26
3/18/06 at 3:49am
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post #19 of 26
3/18/06 at 8:09am
Nice to read so much about the BD again: I don't know why, but it seems it has always ended up in the shadow of the Zu, Cardas and Equinox debate. Now when the RnB Grace Five Two turned up I thought of it again because it appears they share a few traits. I have never listened to a BD though. Ross did - a lot.
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post #20 of 26
3/18/06 at 9:39am
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Originally Posted by Alwayswantmore
On my rig (with less than 24 hours) the 650/BD-V2/balanced has a smooth rather polite sound. Something you could easily listen to for many hours and not be fatigued. But they also lack some of the detail and "there" I know exists in my favorite disks.

While I intend to give them much more time, I can't help but wonder if a silver cable or coughing up the extra $ for Equinox isn't something I should consider???
It may be a matter of synergy... but in this case a Zu Mobius or a (used) Silver Dragon is worth considering. I really like both, and the latter is currently my standard HD-650 cable, but be warned that it's a bit prone to break near the connectors, which is the reason why it's not produced anymore. The Zu Mobius is probably the one with the best focus and definition apart from the Equinox. What it does better than the latter is the smoother (in terms of characteristic, not HF extension) and more brilliant treble. The downside is a slightly flatter soundstage. But if you have troubles with not enough treble extension from your BD, the Equinox won't solve the problem, as it's rather a bit rolled-off on top. -- However, I think silver is the way to go in your case (or the K 701 ). But isn't your HD 650 rather new? Maybe all you need is some more patience. Mine took 200 hours to sound as it should, including better and more present treble.
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post #21 of 26
3/18/06 at 1:08pm
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Originally Posted by JaZZ
But isn't your HD 650 rather new? Maybe all you need is some more patience. .
Yes it is new - almost 60 hours. And the SQ has continued to improved with time. The tonal balance of the highs -- though probably darker than some alternatives -- are becoming acceptable. [There is a smoothness and almost effortless presentation of the music that makes this config very easy to listen to, even for somewhat bright recordings.] There has also been substantail improvements in deep bass (which again is becoming more effortless) and some improvement in detail / resolution.

Based on what I hear now, I would still welcome additional transparency (a little more "feel" as fingers touch strings; a little more connection with vocalists; a little more sense of subtle echoes and reverberations in the room...), and anything that expands and deepens the soundstage or improves imaging would bring what I hear closer with my 2 channel system. (The soundstage is good, but I alwayswantmore .)
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post #22 of 26
3/18/06 at 7:33pm
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3/20/06 at 12:21am
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post #24 of 26
3/20/06 at 9:10am
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Originally Posted by granodemostasa
I'm thinking of defoaming the HD650, but i'm worried about what this might do to balence... what do you all think of this idea?
It's easy to do and easily reversible -- just try it! I have appreciated the foamless sound with my HD 600 until a source change, after which I liked the original configuration better again. But I never found the HD 650 to sound more favorable without the foam. Maybe the over-all sonic balance will become slightly more neutral, but you lose low bass and transient definition.

With speakers, the rule of thumbs is that sound waves having to pass through fabric or foam will get a slightly more matte characteristic, which isn't exactly a good thing. So removing corresponding protection grills will provide better sonic results in many cases, save for the potential dampening of the reflective speaker baffle for which the grill may in fact have a positive effect as well.

However, with headphones the foam serves not just as (dust) protection, but also as damping element -- since otherwise the sound waves would be unhinderedly and multiply reflected between driver/membrane and ear/headskin with the effect of smeared transients. And the latter aspect is the greatest disadvantage of this modification. The mentioned bass drop-off is the result of the diminished sound barrier between front and rear sound waves, thus greater phase cancellation of low frequencies.
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post #25 of 26
3/21/06 at 4:40am
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3/27/06 at 5:54pm
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