K1000 vs R10 ... - Page 11

This are exactly my feelings, regarding the R-10/K701 comparison, I felt that to compare those two is a little on the romantic side (to call it the least)...BTW the HD650 IME has a lot more bass....but again I will try to reauditon a fully burned in pair with a better amplification...but I feel it won't even touch the R-10 case...

I have heard a lot of cans and setups, including the monstrous Orpheus, and the experience that I received every-time I heard the R-10 in very different setups each time was simply magic, it seduces you to a very intimate experience, just between you and the music, almost sexual...so don't be around me while listening the R-10 OK?...

I'm not saying you're wrong -- because you hear what you hear. But to my ears that's not true: The K 701 seems to have even higher bass impact than the HD 650, although less midbass. After all it has the more prominent low bass, which makes e.g. bass drums sound more energetic and controlled.


I can't speak for the R10, but the K 701 sounds like a very competent headphone to me: very little flaws and high resolution -- exactly those features that have made the HD 650 my reference since its launch. The K 701 will definitely remain my favorite -- also in April and May.
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Wow, I really wish I could hear YOUR exact pair because I just don't get that. Btw the 701 has no where NEAR the bass of the Qualia or L3K (both of which have more bass than the R10 IMO).

Competent yes, in the same class as the R10, Qualia, HE90, I would strongly disagree.

I agree with JaZZ that in the deepest bass the K701 tends to be more present than HD650, as opposite in the mid-bass.

For other thing, I know people that ended to prefer the K701 for the particular sinergy with his amp against R10... (I would have never made it, anyway... )

Andrew

Well not to argue with you guys, but we are going again to the same old uncertain point, I have expressed the same many times, there is absolutely no way of knowing which system is adding or subtracting to the music anything, as there is absolutely no way to determine how a recording was made and how it sounds like, in the first instance. To have heard the same thing 100 times does not indicate that you have heard it right the 100 times before....a recording is not like a life-like event, in which you listen to the music directly. One thing is how a given instrument or a piece of musics is supposed to sound and another thing is how it was indeed recorded due to physical and technological limitation of the media, and of the human behind it...

The recordings are done with people behind it, and with a lot of different tastes and personal preferences, some of them, not even with a mediocre hearing, that add or subtract from the music they record as they wish, if you are not the musician, not the engineer behind the music, it is absolutely no way you can tell me this should sound like this...there is no way to go right...

Honestly this is a point that has been going in circles around my head since the beginning, and that I express every time someone tell that this or that system is "more neutral" or this or that system color the music.....End of story short, I suggest you guys and I'm doing the same, just choose the can and system you enjoy the best, and forget about if it is reproducing the music right or wrong, or it is or not "the more neutral" as you will never know for sure, what is in the CD recorded or how it sounds like...sorry guys, you are chasing a ghost....

For example I have a CD from Elmer Ferrer, the Fango Dance, if you listen it, the bass is overpowered, it was recorded like that, I know Elmer and he confirmed me that the engineer did that on purpose as he wish and like the music like that, but that doesn't mean that in front of you Elmer will sound like that, of course not, same happen to many many musicians....

That's to be expected of a semi-mass-produced product

Words to live by

Awesome post! Extremely well put, and I completely agree (with the whole post, not just the section I quoted).

True dat!

I think that what an item sells for usually indicates how much it costs to produce, though this doesn't always relate to performance. The only under $500 can that I'm remotely interested in right now is the 701, but I don't know which local dealers have these.

I second Andrea's