Jeez guys, take a deep breath, it will be okay...I was just trying to convey my experience with the cable to help the guy out…
Neruda: Although it is true that something can sound both accurate and musical, it is not true that accurate is the opposite of warm. I don't remember stating that warm meant muddy or inaccurate. Those are your words. For example, the etymotic 4s presents music very accurately and very musically. These are not mutually exclusive terms. Hence, the comma between the two words in my sentence to which you refer. I wrote, "a warmer, more musical presentation," using two adjectives to describe a presentation...if they meant the same thing, I could have just used one. But rather, I find that both words describe music with the Equinox. Hmmm...Perhaps a quote from you will help, from your review of the 401,
"Sometimes though, I prefer the warmer sound. It can be very musical, perhaps a bit like a tube amp’s warmth. I usually prefer that sound with laid-back music late at night. It’s the sort of sound you can really get pulled into. Like I’ve mentioned once or twice already, the K401’s treble is smooth, yet detailed."
It doesn't seem that you are confused here, yet you use the terms “musical,” “warm,” and “detailed” in a description of the 401. Your complaint with my word-usage doesn’t seem any clearer to me after reading your words.
Fiddler: I understand your upset with the term "musical" being used to describe equipment. As we can see from your previous posts on the subject,
"Nope, my Corda ain't musical either. NO amp or headphone or speaker or CD player or turntable in the world is musical! Musicality requires HEART AND SOUL! These are machines we're talking about, people! If you're listening and you feel that it sounds "musical", give credit to the musician, not the equipment!"
"I also find the term "musical" very annoying... Whether something sounds musical or not is up to the MUSICIAN, not the equipment! No matter how great your headphones are, if you're listening to a bad musician, it's NOT GOING TO SOUND MUSICAL! What I mean by a "musical" musician is somebody who has the ability to move their audience to tears through the emotions they transmit through their music. No headphone in the world is going to convey emotion if there wasn't any emotion to begin with in the music! On the other hand, a recording of an incredibly gifted musician played through a pair of crappy headphones is STILL going to have the ability to move people, and therefore it is "musical"!"
But I'm afraid that I did not describe any piece of equipment as musical. Rather, I described the presentation, not the equipment itself as musical. Although I concede that musicality ultimately resides in the musician (as a professional musician of over 20 years, I believe that I understand musicality, and how it is conveyed), I find that certain types of equipment can either hinder or assist in the delivery of that musicality. A piece of equipment that does not adequately capture the timbre or tonal characteristics of a sound or group of sounds, produced by a musician, intended to evoke an emotion or association, to me, is not particularly musical. On the other hand, a piece of equipment that allows the full intentions of the musician to come through is musical. You can disagree with the word, but I think that the concept stands testing. Also, I did not associate a "tonal quality” of “audio equipment” with the “term musical”. Please re-read.
Finally, I will avoid delving into the imprecise usage of the words “heart” and “soul,” in the quote from you above, where you clearly suggest that musicality comes from the heart. Actually, the heart is an organ of specialized muscle tissue that has unique properties in that it controls its own cellular firing, can accept and adapt to the influence of multiple neuroendocrine substances, and pumps blood through the body from early in gestation until death without ever resting. However, it is not musical, nor does the heart, in and of itself, somehow endow a musician with musicality. I would be willing to wager that musicality is made up of more than just having a heart inside one’s body. We will leave “soul” for another time, perhaps. But clearly, you meant something by using these words, and although your usage might not be exactly precise (allowing someone to take you literally and then be offended by your suggestion), we all seem to know pretty much what you mean…
I am hoping that this is taken somewhat tongue in cheek. I agree that people throw words around and might not use them to your liking, but I also know that we economize on our delivery by allowing words to have connotations (what words imply) as well as denotations (what words actually say). So, I’m sorry if I somehow offended you by saying that a certain sound presentation was musical, but (1) just because your definition of a word does not exactly coincide with mine does not make yours right and mine wrong, and (2) I am relying on a history of common usage for this word that precedes your outrage.
You are both very bright guys, and I enjoy reading your posts all the time—very knowledgeable—but I do find it somewhat humorous that I have been playing music professionally since before either of you were born, only to be slapped on the wrist for what you consider imprecise usage of the word musicality (never mind that I was an English teacher for years)…it seems a bit silly to me that one should be held up to such exacting scrutiny on such trifles.