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KSC 75's and Allesandro MS-1's

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Hi. I love the superb sweet sounds my KSC 75's give with my MP3 player. So far I've not heard anything better. I'm wanting similar sound from a more robust set of phones for my HiFi. I was disappointed with the Grado SR60's (comfy but unexciting, no soundstage or instrument seperation) I may have had a duff pair perhaps. I'm looking towards the Allesandro MS1's. They seem to get great reviews. Is the sound, clarity and soundstage similar to the KSC 75's? Also, I bought some flats from Todd hoping they'de improve the SR60. No joy however. What do flats sound like on MS1's? Is there an improvement?
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Do a search for the AKG 240S. I was also looking for a better than koss 60ohm phones, the 240 seems like it from the opinions here. I didn't jump the gun, because i really don't have time to listen at home, no full sized phones for me.
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Originally Posted by brokenwallet
Do a search for the AKG 240S. I was also looking for a better than koss 60ohm phones, the 240 seems like it from the opinions here. I didn't jump the gun, because i really don't have time to listen at home, no full sized phones for me.
x2.. IMHO the K240s is the next step up from the KSC75, IF you want soundstage and image. Note however that it needs amplification to do it justice. IMHO flat pads on grados just KILLS what littls soundstage they already have.

Anyone try the MS1 with bowl pads and a warm tube amp?

Also... I am one of the few on this forum who strongly believe Grados (even the SR60) and all low impedence cans (Shure e2c) sound MUCH better amped. To my ears, low impedence headphones sound mushy, conjested and severely lack dynamics when plugged into a limitend-current amp circuit. Its like you take the Grado dynamics and slam and compress / crunch it down flat.

Garrett
post #4 of 6
I have both the KSC75s and the MS-1s. I have tried the the stock comfies, Todd flats, and bowls, and to my ears there is no contest: the bowls are the way to go. Like Garret says, the flats and comfies kill all sense of space. I wonder if your disappointment with the 60s could be partially because of the pads... that, and poor amplification.

Given that, the MS-1s (with bowls) sound warmer, more rich on complex sounds, with a slightly reduced sound stage. For me, the MS-1s are the clear winner over the KSC75s -- no question. That said though, the KSC75s are more efficient and work well straight out of a portable or sound card. The MS-1s need a little more push.
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Originally Posted by kramer5150
To my ears, low impedence headphones sound mushy, conjested and severely lack dynamics when plugged into a limitend-current amp circuit. Its like you take the Grado dynamics and slam and compress / crunch it down flat.

Garrett
Quoted for truthness. Super.Fi 5 Pros are very effecient and go very loud even out of weak mp3 player amps, but the sound is congested and lacking in dynamics. Put a portable amp in between and suddenly you get alot more clarity and dynamics, even at a lower volume.
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Thread Starter 
Thanks for all replies so far! Well, like I said, I was thinking of the MS1's for my Hifi seperates system (Cambridge Audio Azur 640a & 640c) The SR60's were disappointing, after all the hype of reading how good they were and the awards given. I REALLY liked how they fit though. That's why I want to go for the MS-1's. Same design and comfort, but more detail, slightly wider soundstage (hopefully) How would the MS-1's compare side by side with the KSC75's then?
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