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post #391 of 570

DAC round up.

 

I'm waiting on my Asgard 2.

 

What DACS R U all happy w/ your 225i? I'm looking at Biforst (would need the USB and not sure if I want to spring $450 yet), Modi (wondering if it might be too "bright"), UCAC and Hrt Music Streamer II or Microstreamer....looking forwrad to my first meet. More interested in dedicated vs portable, but my priority is sound quality, either or.

 

Thoughts?


Edited by markm1 - 4/4/13 at 8:27am
post #392 of 570
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post

DAC round up.

 

I'm waiting on my Asgard 2.

 

What DACS R U all happy w/ your 225i? I'm looking at Biforst (would need the USB and not sure if I want to spring $450 yet), Modi (wondering if it might be too "bright"), UCAC and Hrt Music Streamer II or Microstreamer....looking forwrad to my first meet. More interested in dedicated vs portable, but my priority is sound quality, either or.

 

Thoughts?


i've had the modi before, it does lean toward the bright side, i'm using a AE d1 amp/dac, its really good, nice features too, i've heard the asgard 2 is really good, i'd like to get a tube head amp for my 225's !

post #393 of 570
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post


i've had the modi before, it does lean toward the bright side, i'm using a AE d1 amp/dac, its really good, nice features too, i've heard the asgard 2 is really good, i'd like to get a tube head amp for my 225's !


i forgot to add, i may go with the microstreamer, i've heard it said it has a very tube like quality

post #394 of 570
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post

DAC round up.

I'm waiting on my Asgard 2.

What DACS R U all happy w/ your 225i? I'm looking at Biforst (would need the USB and not sure if I want to spring $450 yet), Modi (wondering if it might be too "bright"), UCAC and Hrt Music Streamer II or Microstreamer....looking forwrad to my first meet. More interested in dedicated vs portable, but my priority is sound quality, either or.

Thoughts?

Magni and Modi + tape mode is excellent combo to my ears it's not earpiercing at all, just nicely forward with great kick. Rather than Bifrost I'll invest in RS-1 as my next upgrade probably wink.gif
post #395 of 570

Thanks for your thoughts. I'm considering the Microstreamer or Music Streamer II. I'm adding a bunch of schiit to my system including upgrading my speaker home audio and maybe adding Sonos to my mix. My stereo is adjacent to my PC.

 

Anyhoo, I'm debating a DAC simply for my PC and HPs vs evaluating the sound of Sonos through my speaker system which is close enough to my PC that I could potentially use a DAC as such:

 

PC-DAC-stereo receiver and/or PC-DAC-HP's.

 

I don't know what I'm going to do. The Hrt products look kind of cool as they are economical and might allow me to:

 

a) both listen to digitial music w/ HPs

b) as well as connecting to my strereo.

 

Plus, I'd also like to upgrade HPs as well.

 

Ugh!


Edited by markm1 - 4/5/13 at 11:07am
post #396 of 570

microstreamer ordered (1 day shipping)+

ms1 due here tomorrow- +

sr225i here, waiting +

          =

 

A WHOLE LOTTA TIME LISTENING TO TUNES !

post #397 of 570

well, the end of the evening, the ms1 still burning in

if i had gotten the ms1 first, i might not have ever

have heard the 225, but

i did have the 225 for for more than a week,

listening to it heavily.

the 225 is better to me, is it 2x better ? it cost 2x more

no, its not 2x better, there is that pesky law of deminishing returns.

the winner tonight........ the 225

but we have a few more days

post #398 of 570

well, i've decided which headphone is being returned, and which i'm keeping

its already boxed up !!

guess which one i'm keeping !!?? lol
 

post #399 of 570

I would wager the225s are staying.

 

Did you "acquire" a tube amp yet? I play my 225i through a Project Sunrise 2. Whatever you get, the tube smooths the 225i like liquid warmth.

post #400 of 570
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Originally Posted by rmouser View Post

I would wager the225s are staying.

 

Did you "acquire" a tube amp yet? I play my 225i through a Project Sunrise 2. Whatever you get, the tube smooths the 225i like liquid warmth.


not yet, i did get a fiio eo9k, it sounds great, next will be either a tube amp, or another set of headphones

i'm pleasantly surprised how good the fiio sounds(i really shouldn't be i guess, i have had the e10 for a long time).

i noticed on your profile, you have a g3, how do you like it ?? i'm leaning towards that, or the little dot mk ii ++,

or which ever is the all tube one(but not the mkiii)

post #401 of 570
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Originally Posted by rmouser View Post

I would wager the225s are staying.

 

Did you "acquire" a tube amp yet? I play my 225i through a Project Sunrise 2. Whatever you get, the tube smooths the 225i like liquid warmth.


oh, give the man a cigar, yes, the 225's are staying

i've already boxed the ms1's, but they haven't been shipped , i've beenhaving second thoughts, maybe keep'em, and mod'em

post #402 of 570

Bingo!

 

Keep them and and mod them by all means. There is lots of info on Head-Fi on modding. My 225i have the full vent mod-opens the bottom end.

 

Regarding the G3--it is by far the best of the "budget" open frame tube-hybrid group, HOWEVER, the term "budget" means just that. You can roll tubes, which is fun, but the bias pots are only 3/4 turn, which makes it tricky. The sound is good but long term reliability is "budget"... I sold mine....

 

If you want get into modding and tubes, try the Project Sunrise or Starlight. They look like the G3 gone nuclear. You can get the kit or built. Both can swap tubes with easy biasing. The Starlight also has opamp swapping.

 

So keep the phones and you can experiment with phones, tubes, and possibly opams.

 

Google the amps and you will see. I can help you with modding the phones. I have done just about everything. Below is a picture of a former SR80 pair.


Edited by rmouser - 4/16/13 at 3:52pm
post #403 of 570

Finally decided to upgrade from the SR60i to the SR225i.  I got my cans today and out of the box I am already enjoying the experience.  For me they feel a lot different to the SR60i's but in a good way so far.  One thing I have noticed so far is instrument separation.  I am playing Maudlin Of The Well's Leaving Your Body Map on vinyl and the experience so far is definitely superior to the SR60'S.  There appears to be a lot more "space" for want of a better word.  Soundstage feels rich and deep.  Everything feels very smooth, may I dare say a little relaxed.  Listening to Death's Spiritual Healing sounds "tamer" than the SR60's...more refined which really surprised me for a Death Metal album. 

 

I am finding them very comfortable so far on the ears, contrary to what some people have said.  My only "complaint" so far is in the bass department.  For me anyway it feels like the bass is a bit subdued.  I found the SR60'S pretty good in the bass department.  Anyway the cans are hardly burned in yet so maybe the bass will reveal itself over time.  So far it has been a very interesting experience and not completely what I expected but in a good way.  Will update once these cans are properly burned in. 
 

Edit 03/05/13:

 

Now listening to Kaos Sacramentum Bloodcurse Stigmata on vinyl and I am blown away.  The treble is amazing and tight and the bass is definitely starting to come out.  Again there feels like there is a lot of space.  Guitars sound amazing.  I'm also getting the same "forwardness" and "attack" that I loved so much about the SR60's...but it feels more refined so does not feel as harsh on the ears.  Production wise this album is pretty good for underground black metal so perhaps it depends on the quality of the recording.  I listened to another black metal album late last night and it sounded terrible, however I know that the production is pretty poor on that one.  I have another two Kaos Sacramentum albums to listen to so will update later.

 

Edit 04/05/13:

 

Listened to the two other Kaos Sacramentum album and they both sound great...add to the list Gorgoroth's Antichrist on vinyl as well.  I have always considered Antichrist to be a poor recording overall, but it certainly is not.  A little harsh with the vocals but they are so in your face which is how it is meant to sound, coupled with the razor sharp guitars and it was a fascinating experience.  But the "euraka" moment so far has to be listening to Agalloch's Ashes Against The Grain on vinyl.  In short it just sounds fantastic.  Amazing rich and deep soundstage, once again the treble shines, but the big thing for me is the bass is now there.  I think my ears are just starting to get used to the bass as it does not boom in your ears, but feels very accurate and on this particular recording sounds punchy and deep.  Drums also feel like they have a real kick to them as well.  Still nowhere near breaking in these cans fully but I am starting to fall in love.  For me Agalloch has never sounded better, even with the SR60'S.  I found the SR60'S to be a little harsh with this recording, but the SR225i's are giving me such a deep soundstage which still retains some of the harshness but sounds slick and silky smooth.  Fantastic stuff!  Will update some more once I get to hear some more albums.


Edited by Beverast - 5/4/13 at 2:44pm
post #404 of 570
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Finally decided to upgrade from the SR60i to the SR225i.  I got my cans today and out of the box I am already enjoying the experience.  For me they feel a lot different to the SR60i's but in a good way so far.  One thing I have noticed so far is instrument separation.  I am playing Maudlin Of The Well's Leaving Your Body Map on vinyl and the experience so far is definitely superior to the SR60'S.  There appears to be a lot more "space" for want of a better word.  Soundstage feels rich and deep.  Everything feels very smooth, may I dare say a little relaxed.  Listening to Death's Spiritual Healing sounds "tamer" than the SR60's...more refined which really surprised me for a Death Metal album. 

 

I am finding them very comfortable so far on the ears, contrary to what some people have said.  My only "complaint" so far is in the bass department.  For me anyway it feels like the bass is a bit subdued.  I found the SR60'S pretty good in the bass department.  Anyway the cans are hardly burned in yet so maybe the bass will reveal itself over time.  So far it has been a very interesting experience and not completely what I expected but in a good way.  Will update once these cans are properly burned in. 
 

I listen to a lot of extreme metal on my 225i, too. As well as jazz, new age, ambient, classical, indie and folk! Try the tape mod for sure. I don't own them, but a lot of folks claim the inexpensvie tube amp LD 1+ (I think that's it) also gives it a warmer basier sound...correct me if I'm wong peops.

post #405 of 570

I'm cross posting this from the Asgard-2 thread. But, since I just bought an A-2 for my 225i, I thought it was relevant.

 

I just got my Asgard 2 using with a Grado 225i. I heard so much about-"oh, you don't need an amp, they sound great without an amp", and I partially agree. Compare to schiitttty Ipod stock ear buds, sure they are an absolute revelation.....part the red seas, hear the angels sing....yes-I get that. But, after just about 15 minutes I can say the A-2 on first impression does indeed improve sound on my 225i relative to my dedicated Onkyo components.

 

(Newbie Disclosure-this is my first decent set of cans and my absolute first experience with an amp. I have never listened w/ a DAC, and currently don't listen to my computer that much. I do listen to streaming sources and itunes music-just not on my computer. I listen to Rhapsody on a cell phone, itunes on an Ipod and on an internet streaming Onkyo receiver)

 

Just a few minutes last night listening to:

 

A) dedicated Onkyo 7030 CD player, and

 

B) Onkyo streaming receiver-Rhapsody streaming service play lists.

 

I was expecting minimal improvement from my CD player. It has a Woflson DAC and I have previously thought the SQ listening to CD's from the HP jack on my Onkyo CD player was quite good. I was wrong!  Well, right and wrong. The SQ from my CD player sans A-2 is decent. But, I'm like someone who has only had hamburger and will now attest that a rib eye stack is better! And, I don't even eat red meat blink.gif

 

The sound quality from the A2 through my dedicated Onkyo 7030 CD player vs listening to the CD player's HP jack sounds, fuller, richer and more vibrant. While not an audiophile, I can recognize good sound. The A-2 just sounds better.

 

I listened to a little classical, jazz and metal. I'm mostly a rock guy, but I like classical, ambient, folk and jazz as well.

 

I noticed the difference more in the nuanced music of classical the most-a Mozart CD. I'm assuming that is because the subtleties in Mozart are more apparent than sludge and thrash metal! Looking forward to listening to some more nuanced prog, blues, folk, and well recorded classic rock to see.

 

As stated, I don't own a DAC yet. But, I agree w/ Steve Guttenburg ( hope I have that name right) who referenced the 225i and Asgard in a CNET review that caught my eye. He said something to the effect that a Grado 225 and Asgard (pre A-2) was a great budget entry into high quality sound. Thus far, I would have to agree.

 

Call my pleasantly surprised. It's not night and day, but the sound just opened up quite a bit to these ears. Like going from good speakers to REALLY good speakers.

 

Now to decide if I want to spring for the Biforst or Peach Tree DAC-It which I believe will allow me to use with my Sonos and if I'm lucky also with my A2.


Edited by markm1 - 5/8/13 at 11:26am
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