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post #16 of 57
1/27/06 at 1:48pm
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Originally Posted by K2Grey
Stop trolling. Have any of you personally heard this tweak or A/B'ed it? If so, I don't see how any of you can comment on its effectiveness.
Well also that brings up the question as to whether something like that should be run from a cigarette lighter adapter or on the supplied batteries. Wouldn't you think the psu makes a difference? Also, I understand that for those who do choose to use a cigarette lighter, there are special car batteries made by AC Delco that have cleaner power (I read somewhere that it is a joint venture with Bose).

And don't forget, the effectiveness of the clock also depends on your shock absorbers as the smoothness or bumpiness of the ride may affect the sound quality... so be advised, ymmv (no pun intended, yes? no?)
post #17 of 57
1/27/06 at 1:54pm
i also think evaluating the clever little click is heavily dependant on whether or not you have their brilliant pebbles.
post #18 of 57
1/27/06 at 2:19pm
What I am really curious about is if there is a difference depending on what time zone you are in. Or, does it make a difference if you are using a 24 hour setting or 12 hour am/pm?
post #19 of 57
1/27/06 at 2:56pm
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Originally Posted by NotJeffBuckley
It's hard to tell with self-appointed golden ears "reviewers" in both websites like that and in some magazines; if you can't hear a difference they'll just tell you your hearing's obviously inferior and this clock makes so much difference, how can you miss it, the transients are faster and the bass is deeper, the soundstage more spacious and there's so much more air between the instruments, you must be a tin ears!
post #20 of 57
1/27/06 at 3:28pm
Maybe along the lines of the golden vs tin ear issue, there ought to be A/B tests done to see if people can distinguish real reviews from spoofs. Or real catalog prose from lampoons. With some of the stuff I read about fancy audio gear, I really can't tell if they are serious or not!
post #21 of 57
1/27/06 at 5:05pm
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Originally Posted by PhilS
Right back atcha, mister "anti-agenda."
post #22 of 57
1/27/06 at 5:13pm
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Originally Posted by NotJeffBuckley
Right back atcha, mister "anti-agenda."
post #23 of 57
1/27/06 at 5:16pm
Thread Starter 
On the topic of spoofs/satire, I also agree that the products themselves are satire, meant to take advantage of the gullible. I've posted about that before in other threads.

But the reviews that Machina Dynamica's products get don't seem to be spoofs/satire. Read the Positive Feedback or 6moons reviews of the Intelligent Chip or the 6moons review of Brilliant Pebbles for other examples.

The only thing in this review of the Clever Little Clock that could be considered in the direction of satire is the reviewer's professed enjoyment of wrestling, but I suspect he's only talking about that because of the review's "tag team" theme, trying to incorporate some kind of blind angle into the test. The rest of the review doesn't read like satire to me.
post #24 of 57
1/27/06 at 5:27pm
Someone should try modding this baby to get ultimate sound.

Maybe replace the orange sticker with a blue one to give a cooler more neutral sound or a red one to warm things up.

Or maybe the sticker is the most vital part. Pull it off the timex and stick it on an OMEGA or something.
post #25 of 57
1/27/06 at 5:37pm
I just reread the review and was further convinced this has to be a joke because who could ever be that stupid (and now I will get comments like don't knock it until you've tried it.. but my reply is, I advocate sitting under a sunlamp with a roll of seaweed on your head to improve the sound entering your ears - you wanna try that? It's cheaper and at least you can eat the seaweed if you don't hear any difference). But then I clicked on the link to go to the products website and see that they offer all sorts of stuff like that, like those "brilliant pebbles." I have to say that these folks must be laughing all the way to the bank and thanking the author of "The Emperors New Clothes" for giving them such a good idea to apply to the audio world. I didn't know whether to laugh or be angry.
post #26 of 57
1/27/06 at 5:45pm
Read his other article Faith and Belief in Audio and it becomes pretty clear that he's indeed serious about Peter Belt's products.
post #27 of 57
1/27/06 at 5:56pm
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Originally Posted by saint.panda
Read his other article Faith and Belief in Audio and it becomes pretty clear that he's indeed serious about Peter Belt's products.
I just read through it (briefly) and yes it sounds like it is serious. I do not believe that just because something doesn't jibe with science that it can't be real, but some things just seem to be way too far-fetched for me. What I object to is that these things are so expensive - how much can these products really cost? I know if you don't want them, don't buy them, but I just have to feel that some people sit around thinking of just how far they can go with the public (i.e, how laughingly ridiculous should anyone know the truth of the matter) before they stop pulling out their wallet.

I was reading that product's website and there is a disclaimer about how the clock you receive may not match the one in the picture as they reserve the right to send you a different clock. I guess it just depends on what is for sale at the Goodwill store that day, or what they find in the cans as they go up and down the block on trash day. Again, I am not saying things unexplainable by science don't exist, but charging so much money for something like what is on that site is a load of hooey.
post #28 of 57
1/27/06 at 5:57pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by omedon
Someone should try modding this baby to get ultimate sound.

Maybe replace the orange sticker with a blue one to give a cooler more neutral sound or a red one to warm things up.

Or maybe the sticker is the most vital part. Pull it off the timex and stick it on an OMEGA or something.
Believe it or not, Geoff Kait (the owner of Machina Dynamica) made a post over at AudioAsylum where he claims that the shape and color of the orange sticker is important to the improvement of sound quality. So presumably a blue sticker wouldn't work.
post #29 of 57
1/27/06 at 6:17pm
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Originally Posted by AlanY
Believe it or not, Geoff Kait (the owner of Machina Dynamica) made a post over at AudioAsylum where he claims that the shape and color of the orange sticker is important to the improvement of sound quality. So presumably a blue sticker wouldn't work.
orange means warmth and fun, circle means completeness, protection or infinity.
maybe that is why the shape and color is important.

machina dynamica really doesnt tell you anything about the clock. I personally think everything I read about it is ridiculous.
post #30 of 57
1/27/06 at 6:30pm
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Originally Posted by RnB180
orange means warmth and fun, circle means completeness, pretection or infinity.
maybe that is why the shape is important?

I caught your post pre-unlinking, but I have one to contribute to the about.com psychology-of-orange and geocities design elements sites you linked.

Here is another page to keep in mind when thinking about a Timex battery-operated clock with an orange sticker on it doing nothing to your audio signal and yet altering your sound with near-infinite variability depending on placement.

I know you don't believe in it, and I would hope no one else does either
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