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post #16 of 67
I think that everything that we lost didn't have a basic power bar or surge protector except our TV and PC's RAM. The TV was properly hooked up to a $100 Newpoint surge protector. The most expensive one in our house. Now that surge protector was 7 years old so perhaps it had worn out but it was a little surprising.

Also many things that were unprotected survived.

A Microwave, TV, sattelite receiver, A protected PC's RAM, a non-protected PC's PSUnit, little boom-boxes, radios, cell phone charger, and the likes were the victims.
post #17 of 67
I am trying the Naim approach and just using a Wiremold stick. Pray the electrical powers that be are kind to me!
post #18 of 67
I'll take a hit in absolute fidelity (if I am infact losing out on some) to have the assurance that in the event of a hit, my gear will survive. A few years ago my house was struck by lightening, my compter was not protected...the platters in one of the hard drives fused together. I keep it around as a reminder. Never again.
post #19 of 67
sigh..more expensive s***t to buy -but gotta have it. Ok experience Headfiers,please offer me some solutions. Would any of these be ideal or not worth the price tag ? One thing i also do as another mentioned-I never leave my audio equipment plugged up until I use it.Now, I'm nervous about surge problems and I guess that's a good thing after becoming a victim once.

http://www.avdeals.com/Furman/AC-215.htm

http://www.avdeals.com/Furman/PL-8II.htm

http://www.epinions.com/FURMAN_PST_8...ay_~full_specs


http://brickwall.thomasnet.com/item/...aud?&forward=1

http://brickwall.thomasnet.com/item/...aud?&forward=1

http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/pr...%20Conditioner

AND FOR AC LINE CONDITIONING-THIS IS NOT A SURGE PROTECTOR:

http://www.audioreview.com/cat/acces...7_1590crx.aspx

NOT SURE ABOUT THIS ONE:

http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/pr...C%20Receptacle

Here's an article on the upc200 from PS Audio---I'm leanin torwards this one maybe sinceothers have mentioned it:

http://www.psaudio.com/products/upc200_overview.asp

A link to a decent quality diy power strip:

http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=159128
post #20 of 67
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Originally Posted by twc5964
sigh..more expensive s***t to buy -but gotta have it. Here's an article on the upc200 from PS Audio---I'm leanin torwards this one maybe sinceothers have mentioned it:
http://www.psaudio.com/products/upc200_overview.asp
I was in the market for mine a few months back and sacd lover suggested it to me. I also sent in a request for PSAudio to have a look at my system config and they suggested the UPC200 model to me as well. I picked it up from Audio Advisor (since I wanted the warranty to be valid from an authorized dealer) however you can get them $100 cheaper on Audiogon. I've been really pleased, it helped clean up the ground and didn't limit the dynamics (there's a switch on the bottom of the unit for full bandwidth that connects the two circuits on the inside together). I later added a juicebar for the headphone amps.

Note that the UPC-200 and Juicebar don't come with fancy power cords, just normal 14 gaugers. So as Eyeteeth suggested upgradis will probably hit and you'll want big fat power cords running power to them
post #21 of 67
Many years ago, lightning struck about 40 feet from my (old) house. The lights went out for a second and a dimmer switch blew, but my computer, on an APC UPS, was not damaged and in fact kept on running. Surge protection is a must for any valuable electronic device.
post #22 of 67
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I do want to try a purist approach, plug eveything into something like a PS Audio Juice Bar. No filters, no constraints. But of course there's the fear of catastrophy and like any insurance you feel better having it.
once upon a time I was in that camp but reality struck with a passion about 12 years ago.Watching a video during a lightening storm there was the loudest CRACK of thunder I thought the house was actually struck and set about looking for damage andd/or fire.
Finding none I returned to continue my viewing and realised my AV system was down which raised no alarm bells since it is common with modern electronics to toally shut off during any "glitch" event requiring no more than a simple on/off reset to get back up an running.

Not this time.Receiver goes on,cable box on,TV on VCR not so no picture which means I have to do some troubleshooting if I am to continue.Turns out the cable box is fried (determined by taking it out of the loop and running the cable direct) but that no big deal since i do not own it anyway and a new one is free.
What is not free is a new VCR and that b*tch was not even turning on.I try everything I can think of externally then figuring the internal fuse may be blown open the cover up and peek inside.

Man ! What a damn mess that turned out to be ! Damn near every single capacitor on the main pcb looked like a damn Q-Tip where they actually exploded and there were a couple of scorch marks where resistors went belly up !
i was so amazed I actually called people on the phone to describe the carnage and when not beleived put my wife and kids on to back me and my story up

The lightening strike took out both the cable box (though no internal visible damage) and VCR NOT by riding the AC line in but by riding the the cable lead in which blew both units.
This taught me to protect every single lead from outside the house from telephone to cable to AC and purist be damned I would rather have some questions on signal purity than no questions about my gear blowing up and requiring it to be replaced and i will only use a cordless or cell phone during a thunder storm having heard stories (true or not plausible) about folks getting nailed by the phone.

Knowing a house and any lines leading in are grounding to earth ground through a metal rod buried below the frost line I would not have expected this to be possible if I did not see it with my own eyes with my own gear but it did happen and has stuck with me because it was so dramatic in the damage
post #23 of 67
I use a Panamax MAX 5100-EX and love the thing.
post #24 of 67
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Originally Posted by Salt Peanuts
Yep, I have surge protection. Come to think of it, I think just about everything with a plug is plugged into a surge protector of some sort (except for fridge, stove, washer, and dryer). I just have no intention of risking my gears that way.
Large appliances like fridges should definitely have a surge protector they are not cheap to replace. We had a little 2 inch by 2 inch protector hooked up to one of ours when disaster struck. The fridge survived the protector didn't.
post #25 of 67
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Large appliances like fridges should definitely have a surge protector they are not cheap to replace. We had a little 2 inch by 2 inch protector hooked up to one of ours when disaster struck. The fridge survived the protector didn't.
This is a good place to add my VCR and cable box actually ended up being very expensive surge protectors because like the above fridge my Video monitor survived the surge untouched but these two "parallel surge absorbers" did not (cable splitter ) and self destructed in grand fashion
post #26 of 67
I'm paranoid so I use protection.
post #27 of 67
Hmm - we do have a lightning-conductor in on our roof, but I suppose that will not be safe enough for electronics. I also have a surge-protector function in the HMS power-strip I use for the main audio system. If lightning strikes here, it is usually out in the fields or in the neighbouring village, some 3km from here. Fingers crossed.
post #28 of 67
I have two high current PS Audio ultimate outlets, one for the audio gear and one for the video gear. I used to use some heavy duty Tripp Lite stuff, but then replaced them with the more passive (and expensive) PS Audio stuff. Debates are found at Audio Asylum whether these devices improve, detract or do nuthin' to the audio quality, but I'm way too nervous to go naked in my apt building in NYC.

- walk
post #29 of 67
I wonder what prompts Naim to make the following statement:

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LIGHTNING
No power strip or conditioner can protect your system from lightning, your system's worst enemy.

Lightning raises the voltage on the ground side of the line, and can not be protected against--except by unplugging the system during a storm.

http://www.naimusa.com/html/faq_articles/faq_2.html
post #30 of 67
Boy, some of you have some horror stories!

I'm glad to say I have never had a problem, but that doesn't stop me from being safe.

Almost all of my stuff is behind a surge protector of some type (both for the safety and for the added outlets). My main setup is behind a UPS designed for computer applications. I don't listen to music loud enough or have a sub, so im not current limited yet it seems.
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