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I'm not sure where to stick this but here works. Does anyone have any experience with Behringer mixers? Specifically the Eurorack MX802A. I couldn't afford any Mackies so I grabbed one of these. I ran my NAD 541i into the tape in and ran the mixer's tape out into my Corda HA-1. I did a quick test and didn't hear any noticable differences between running through the mixer or straight to the HA-1. I'm gonna hook my guitar amp, tuner, CDP, and computer to it and then my speakers, wireless headphones, and then normal headphones into it. Anyone have any suggestions on what I should plug into what for optimal sound quality when listening to the CDP? Or just any sound quality suggestions in general. I needed a quick fix to keep all my audio gear in order at college and the mixer made sense. Is there any other solution to my problem that is geared just for Hi-Fi listening?
post #2 of 6

behringer

well, first off, you probably should save up for the mackies... i used to have the 24x4 behringer, and there were several abnormalities. i forgot most of the problems... but i do remember some channels being louder than others, and some channels developed intermittent signal loss. the mute buttons also didn't mute perfectly... they actually let through a noticeable amount of sound. the behringers also lack the functions of a comparable sized mackie... it's their low quality design and limited function that makes them half the cost of mackies.

now, i bought a 32x8 mackie, and it solved some problems. it's not perfect either though... the mute buttons still aren't perfect, though are probably better than those on the behringer. but it's got a hell lot of routing options.... much much more than the top of the line behringer, i believe. made things so much easier and faster to do.

but anyway, for now, ... as for routing on your behringer... i also used to route my computer through the mixer too. i also have my dvd outs coming in (i have the world's fanciest karaoke system... my gf made me do it!). the mixer's the way to go. but unfortunately... especially on lower quality mixers, there's an inherit addition of noise. check it out: move the fader beyond unity, and you will see, towards the top you'd get an unacceptable amount of noise.

so, the best way to do this is to run as hot of a signal into your mixer as you can. meaning... turn up fader on the mixer all the way, and your amp high too... enough so you can hear the noise floor easily. then adjust the volume on your computer as loud as you can while the noise floor is still acceptable (usually around 1/2 volume). then move the fader to unity and play some loud music. at the loudest parts, the master meter (if you have one) should be just above unity... adjust the trim pot to achieve this.

this procedure should be applied to all your equipment.... that way you will have the least amount of noise possible.

now, depending on the complexity of your studio, you might have other considerations... like outputing the right amount level to effects units... so, you'll have to adjust levels for your own situation. but in general, just make sure all your stuff is calibrated to unity... and try to run balanced lines if your equipment allows for it. read your manual carefully though... even my mackie 32x8 is not completely balanced at all inputs/outs. know which jack is balanced and which is not.

let me know if you have more questions...

dean
post #3 of 6

missing

what happened to BeeEs's thread that was posted here yesterday?

everything he said was completely true... why was the thread removed?

dean
post #4 of 6
Thread Starter 
That is messed up. What was in his thread? Oh, and thanks for all the info. When I get my mixer up to college. I'll tell you how it goes.
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hi

cool.

...his thread basically said the same thing about behringer... that they are well known in the pro industry as being copycats. their units have reached incredible price points... but not because of their own ingeuity.

anyway.... i still want to know what happened to his thread... strange that it would just dissappear. if anyone knows, please let me know. i've emailed him (BeeEss) but he hasn't replied yet.

dean

ps-once you get a mixer, you won't be able to work without it, even with a small setup. it makes stuff so much easier. even if all you can afford is the behringer.
post #6 of 6

sorry

ug... sorry again.

i know what happened.... i got this thread mixed up with another thread on behringer products. my apologies.

Daemoth, you should read BeeEs's thread:

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showth...threadid=15712

before you buy the behringer. just warning you.
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