Originally Posted by chrisfromalbany
Why are we missing the unamped review???? Do we have specs on the impendence of these headphone? Do we know for sure they go above the 16Hz ceiling for IEMs?
I am ready to jump ship if they are better unamped. Or use as secondary headphone. I do find it hard to believe that these headphones would have a better fit the custom IEMs. Just doesn't make sense.
I am waiting until a good review with someone that has owned these headphones for a few weeks or a month and can give a proper review. Just listening to these for a few hours and putting your initial impressions isn't going to sell me anything. I guess, at most, it peaks my curiosity to do further research in May when and if they come out then. I hear the same about the HF-1s when they came out. Once the first negative reviews starts coming in did we get a more objective review. As with any headphone they will not all be better then the last. There are +'s and -'s with any new headphone. Not just +'s so I can't buy to much into the hype besides wanting more reviews. Sounds interesting.
Now people that got to listen to these headphones? Did any of you get to keep them?
Well, if you read carefully, all we were offering is initial impressions (which were excellent because that's what we all experienced). As you said, none of us have lived with them yet. As I did mention, I wish for a memory wire, but that's a personal preference. As far as I'm concerned, I'm being as objective as possible based upon what I heard and experienced.
For example, if you read my post, I said that in-canal comfort was better with the ue-10, but that the outer ear comfort was better with the E500 to the point where I found it more comfortable overall. Maybe I should expand on this. In the canal, the E500 is comfortable, but the pressure of the foam is slightly more than the pressure of having the hard (non-expanding) stalk of the UE-10 in your ear. I've never had any issues with the foam in my ears, and do find them to be quite comfortable. People that experience discomfort from having foam expand in their ears may prefer the UE-10's non-expanding stalks. On the other hand, if you have to take them out and put them in repeatedly over relatively short periods of time, there is no question that the E500 (and any other universal fit product) is going to be more comfortable. The UE-10s are a hard acrylic piece that forces your ear to bend around them as you put them on and take them off. If you only do this once every hour or two it's not really a big deal and is only minorly and briefly uncomfortable. If you have to do this a few times in the course of an hour, it becomes quite painful in my experience. Where the E500 really gained a lot of ground for me, though, is in the way they fit into the outer ear. The UE-10 puts pressure in a lot of places that have never had anything putting pressure on them before, over the course of a few hours this can become somewhat uncomfortable. It's not terrible, and is certainly livable, but the E500 doesn't seem to do this at all. It's a very small, well formed, unit that cradles in your ear very nicely. While you're up and about the comfort in the outer ear is going to be similar to the Super.Fi line (read: very comfortable), but the Super.Fi line has a bigger acoustic tube and cannot offer the isolation of the E500 without a lot of discomfort in the canal itself (unless you happen to have very large ear canals). In addition, the E500 is small enough allow me to lay on my side very comfortably, the UE-10 fits in my ears in such a way that laying on my side is not very comfortable. In this respect, everyone's milage will
vary. Ed's ears are really small and it didn't look to me like he'd be able to lay on his side even with the E500. LFF's ears are big enough to where they could get the entire UE-10 unit to fit flush to his ear. This allows him to lay on his side with them and not experience the discomfort I do. I cannot say the E500 will offer you perfect comfort, but they get damn close (closer than the UE-10) for me
As far as the sound goes, I sat there for the better part of an hour listening to the E500 and I think the tonal balance is about as perfect as it gets. Here again, everyone's milage will vary. For me, the E500 took to the next level what I like about the E4 and
the E5, while leaving behind the weaknesses of both. As far as detail goes, like I said, it seems to be at least on par with the UE-10 if not better. I seemed to be getting a bit more detail through the whole range (small but noticable difference), but would really like to spend a couple of weeks with a pair before making a final assesment there.
In addition, it offers some awesome features such as the breakaway cable (that will help to avoid that awful and quite painful experience of having a pair of IEMs pulled out of your ear if you snag the cable on something), and the PtH unit. The PtH unit is something that we've needed for a while. Much of the wear and tear on IEMs, as well as the discomfort comes from having to take them in and out constantly. Additionally, this allows you to get the perfect seal and not have to break it everytime someone has a quick question for you. All of this comes in at half the cost of owning a pair of UE-10's, and they will have a resale value if you upgrade in the future, or if you happen to not like them for some reason.
As far as the treble extension goes, it was something we were all commenting on and so we asked Sugarfried about it. While he did not specify exactly what the frequency response was, he did say they were able to get them to go a bit beyond 16kHz.