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post #16 of 65
Thread Starter 

Does my Pioneer DV-578A deliver 423 times worse SOUND?

I just wonder whether my Pioneer DV-578A ($130)
delivers SOUND which is 423 ( = 55,000 / 130) times WORSE???

Also what kind of SPEAKERS one needs to have with this Zandem CD player?
What about headphones? ORPHEUS?

Again I'd go with BMW, Mercedes, or Volvo!

See you on the Mercedes Side of the Moon

Adam
post #17 of 65
I always thought some of the WADIA stuff was pretty crazy in price.

I have a dream including a lottery ticket and a MEridian 808, buts thats as high as I could take a cd player. I am happy with my g08 enough where I probably just buy one for each room instead of having one huge priced cdp.

lol g08 in every room....crazyy
post #18 of 65
Thread Starter 

Happy New Year and about Lamborghini among CD players!

Happy New Year! ... and dream about Lamborghini
among the CD players! Sometimes dreams come true!

See you on the Lamborghini Side of the Moon

Adam
post #19 of 65
While it's all too easy to laugh at a CD player that's priced so high, I think it's also worth our respect in the fact that it's yet another one of mankind's attempts to create a balls out state of the art device, cost no object. The Sony MDR-R10 and Sennheiser Orpheus were both born out of such similar cost no object projects. Obviously most of us will never be able to afford such things, but it's cool to know about it. And judging from the review(?) description on this CDP, at least it's not just Bose on steroids.

I still remember the day I walked into a local hifi shop just to pick up some interconnects, and happened to stumble upon a demo session for a bunch of guys comparing some "$20,000 CDP to a $600 one". I just snorted at the prices and discreetly leaned back for a listen, being that I felt like I was in the middle of snob city right then. I'll never forget that experience, because I left honestly thinking the $20k CDP was worth it. I wasn't familiar with the jazz music being played, but it was like the band was there, live. It was truly musical, organic, lifelike, a huge difference compared to the $600 CDP. That CD player was the Linn Sondek CD12, which our good ole' Nik happens to own.
post #20 of 65
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Originally Posted by Garbz
That's the problem with some of the lunatic crowd. I know someone who would be one except that he doesn't have the money. They are the type of people who use ceramic spacers to keep cables off the ground to improve sound, yet most of them don't actually listen to music.

I've been over to his place a few times. The last time he was interrupting with the usual comments like listen to the decay of the symbal or how great is the transient on that kick when I just got up, stopped the cd, and just said to him do you even know what that last song is about? I just got a blank stare back.

If you're listening to your hifi and not to the music, you've missed the point.
If you're hifi cost more then your music collection, you've missed the point.
I am one of those people. IMO it's not true music until you hear how it's supposed to sound like.
Colored music may sound better for some people because they have good imagination, they rather imagine and listen to fake music than true music. It's like they create their own dreams and the music just gets them going...

The goal for me is to make the audio system sound as close to real life as possible.
Instead of saying "listen how realistic this sounds like" they say "listen to that decay", because it's something specific and is easier to notice by those who don't know how real life sounds like.
If a vocalist sounds different in the audio system, then it's not the same vocalist, some people prefer this, but I don't.


If you're listening to your hifi then it's not good enough.

P.S. My hifi costs 20+ times more than my music collection.
post #21 of 65
Quote:
NO oversampling, NO negative feedback, NO up-sampling
and brick-wall filter - Zanden makes its own digital filter to aid
minimalist approach.
I wouldn't buy this player even for $50 because it doesn't have upsampling. 44.1 kHz shows what's on the CD but it doesn't sound like real life to me. It sounds too dull, smooth and little bright at the same time.
IME with proper power conditioning 768 kHz sounds more consistent, cleaner, more real life and less bright than 44.1 kHz. It also makes me hear much more in the recording,

But it may be a great player for those who can't hear a difference with higher kHz, I guess it depends on what ears you have.
post #22 of 65
Yeah, sorry. There's no way that thing is 5x better than my Reimyo... I've actually heard it (The Zanden).... as well as some of the more expensive two box players (The new Esoteric P-01/D-01 is really amazing but overpriced as well).

Most are ripoffs. There are a few that's worth the money, but when you start getting into the $20k+ systems it gets a little ridiculous. I know how much effort goes into making these players and, really, there's no way they justify that kind of expense. You just CAN'T put the same time and effort into making a CD Player than you can a Dodge Viper.
post #23 of 65
Alright dudes I just placed my order for this sucker






































































































jk
post #24 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick82
I wouldn't buy this player even for $50 because it doesn't have upsampling.
post #25 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick82
I wouldn't buy this player even for $50 because it doesn't have upsampling.
I would. Then I would sell it for higher.
post #26 of 65
theres a dealer in Chicago who sells them...

http://www.glennpoor.com/philosophy.htm


I would have to be drunk as a skunk to walk in there...I can see them now looking down at me, like a nightmare almost.

salesmen:"what do you use now as your source little boy."

Me: "I have a Meridian G08 Oh high one."

Salesmen: "HAHAHAHAHA GET OUT OF MY STORE AND NEVER LOOK BACK (evil laugh)!!!"

yeah Man that site is just scary...eek
post #27 of 65
I wouldn't even be allowed in that store, like a 16 year old still in his McDonalds uniform at a Porsche dealership.

Why don't they sell it for 100,000 dollars. If you can spend 70, whats the extra 30 going to hurt. Actually more people would buy it, similar to a million dollar car. They should include a note in the package that reads,
"Your a retard, thanks for the money."
post #28 of 65
http://www.6moons.com/industryfeatur...en/zanden.html

Very interesting article about an event comparing it to live music.
post #29 of 65
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I wouldn't buy this player even for $50 because it doesn't have upsampling. 44.1 kHz shows what's on the CD but it doesn't sound like real life to me. It sounds too dull, smooth and little bright at the same time.
IME with proper power conditioning 768 kHz sounds more consistent, cleaner, more real life and less bright than 44.1 kHz. It also makes me hear much more in the recording,
You can find just as many people who don't want over or up-sampling because of the artifacts it introduces. Obviously, this was a deliberate design decision they made, rightly or wrongly. I would need to hear the exact same units, one equipped with up-sampling DACs and one without to determine which one I think sounds best, as I lack your ESP abilities.
post #30 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by Garbz
If you're listening to your hifi and not to the music, you've missed the point.
If you're hifi cost more then your music collection, you've missed the point.
Well said. I'm going to print this and put it conspicuously in my wallet
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