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post #61 of 341
I definitely agree with REB on this, the K400 is a fun phone, sort of an acoustic Grado if that makes any sense . Like my SR225, it is fun, not as Hifi as others, but it excels in a certain type of music, when speed and musicality are required . If you are not into classical, but love jaz and rock, those two compliment each other very well.

It has at the same time a lot of PRAT / energy and an intimate character, very suited to things like chamber music, baroque ensembles, vocal music or small jazz formations, Folk rock à la Joni Mitchell, ...
Sounstage is,well, good enough, but not its strong point, so symphonic works or progressive rock sound somewhat restricted. Do not try electronica or metal, they sound really ordinary on that
I had the opportunity to compare them to K501, I felt the K400 had the same tight bass, but in much more quantity, equivalent great mids and highs slighly less detailed, less soundstage, but surprisingly more speed and energy : I expected the K501 to be much better phones, but quite frankly they are just different, I am not sure I would trade one for the other (exchange for some time maybe ?).

So in the end, not allrounders but very interesting phones if you like classical or acoustic music, can be had for €60 or so, I paid €80 for a pair in pristine condition, and I think they can hold their own against many in the €200 price range on the right type of music. At the time, i had to choose between a pair of K500 and my K400, and as many said the K400 were more regarded than their bigger brothers when they were AKG top of the line, I pulled the trigger on these and have never regretted this choice.
post #62 of 341
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I tried ordering K240 and K500 pads last year and got a call 8 month later asking if I still wanted them. I'd long since given up.
Well, that doesn't sound too hopeful. I could try my luck with the Austrian division of AKG. Or perhaps try some K601 pads if the K500 pads become too worn. (The K601 pads do fit, don't they?)

The K500 pads are indeed very soft. That might be what causes that sound signature, because they might actually absorb a lot of the sound and have a dampening effect. Other, firmer, pads might dampen less and in so doing give the impression of increased bass and fuller sound.

The K701 pads are completely different indeed. They are angled (although I used mine with the thicker part at the bottom and not at the back, they seemed more comfortable this way) and they contain two types of foam. One is beige and quite firm and is present throughout the pad, the other is grey, seems softer and is only present in the thicker part of the pad below the beige foam. (All these observations from what I can deduce from intact pads, I didn't feel like cutting them open.)
post #63 of 341
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Originally Posted by Drosera View Post
Well, that doesn't sound too hopeful. I could try my luck with the Austrian division of AKG. Or perhaps try some K601 pads if the K500 pads become too worn. (The K601 pads do fit, don't they?)
Yes, the K601 pads fit, but I have not been able to get a pair here in the Netherlands. In Germany, nobody seems to sell them (anymore) and if you order through Headroom, shipping is actually more expensive than the pads. If you find a retailer, please let me know! We could always try to contact AKG directly, but I have done that in the past and never got a reply.
post #64 of 341
AKG USA has had some really bad problems with customer service. Supposedly, they have improved, but I decided I didn't need new ear pads.

Wichita, I'm curious what headphone you've tried that have better sound stage than the AKGs. Other open headphones that I own like the DT880 and HD580 have a much more congested head stage.

The only ones I own that are better are the MB Quart QP85 and Stax SR-Gamma. The only others I've heard that are better are the K1000 and SR-Sigma. The QP85, K1000, and Sigma all stretch the definition of what most people consider headphones. They're more like speakers strapped to your head.

Edit: For those who have never seen a float frame, like the QP85
post #65 of 341
Are the earpads of the K400 and the K500 the same?
When I look at pictures of them, I think so, but I'm not sure.
post #66 of 341
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Originally Posted by REB View Post
Yes, the K601 pads fit, but I have not been able to get a pair here in the Netherlands. In Germany, nobody seems to sell them (anymore) and if you order through Headroom, shipping is actually more expensive than the pads. If you find a retailer, please let me know! We could always try to contact AKG directly, but I have done that in the past and never got a reply.
Maybe we could organise a group-buy and try to get AKG's attention by using the 'clout' of head-fi.org. I don't know if anyone's ever tried this before
and I also do not know what would be the best way to go about it. (Is AKG aware of the existence of this forum?)
post #67 of 341
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Originally Posted by REB View Post
Yes, the K601 pads fit, but I have not been able to get a pair here in the Netherlands. In Germany, nobody seems to sell them (anymore) and if you order through Headroom, shipping is actually more expensive than the pads. If you find a retailer, please let me know! We could always try to contact AKG directly, but I have done that in the past and never got a reply.
I just send a PM to you with an Dutch address...
post #68 of 341
No, they're not the same. The pads of the K400 are darker in colour and the foam feels different, less elastic.
post #69 of 341
Which of these amp/DAC combos are most suitable for this headphone? As you guessed I've been given an offer but as I am reading this headphone definitely needs some amplification and I don't want to buy a separate DAC as well.

iBasso D2
Headamp Pico
RSA Predator
Meier Corda 2Move
Travagan's White
post #70 of 341
haven't heard pair with Pico, Predator or even Travagan's White but you might want to search for iBasso P2 and add some warm mod on it (including rolling op-amp, offcourse...) to get more sinergy with the K400...

i remember that iBasso D2 or Corda 2MOVE are not match for K400...K400 need more than JUST an ZERO DAC to bring out all of maximum performance...

make a CMOY with hi-current & hi-voltage setup maybe a lot more cheaper than buying an commercial budget amp...IMHO
post #71 of 341
I got my K400 not long ago, I bought them from REB. This is my first headphone and I have to say I really like them. Maybe I'm going to change the pads, but does anyone knows wich pads I should take?
post #72 of 341
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Originally Posted by #@y0 View Post
I got my K400 not long ago, I bought them from REB. This is my first headphone and I have to say I really like them. Maybe I'm going to change the pads, but does anyone knows wich pads I should take?
The K601 pads with the K601 foam rings, no doubt. They add body and weight to the sound, with more bass, while retaining the lovely mids.
I know those are hard to buy, but they are very worth the investment.
I love this combination a lot, even more than the K 601, HD580, D2000 and all other cans I had.
post #73 of 341
Yes, the only place I found them was Headroom, but it's expensive to send them to the Netherlands...
post #74 of 341
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Originally Posted by #@y0 View Post
Yes, the only place I found them was Headroom, but it's expensive to send them to the Netherlands...
I asked them, the shippingcosts are 20 USD.
You can buy them in the Netherlands as well at the AKG distributor, but then you pay even more on handlingcosts and shipping.
Sad that Thomann.de is not willing to sell them.
I tried also the K701 pads, but the K601 earpads are much better with the K-400.
post #75 of 341
agreed, K400 with stock are awesome BUT using K601 pads on K400 make it the most awesome...
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