|Originally posted by markjia
Your point that TAE does exact bit-to-bit extraction is false.
Then the guys who wrote it were lying? Look, I'm willing to believe that EAC does a "better" job of extracting audio than TAE. My point was simply that a "lack of documentation" is not a convincing argument that TAE isn't doing similar extraction with verification. You're just assuming it doesn't. Maybe the guys who wrote it weren't being honest, but it sure seems like hearing something from the developer should have more credence than making assumptions based on a lack of documentation, no?
|All it does is extract audio tracks from audio CDs just like any other CD extraction program, the only difference from some other programs is that it does error correction.
That statement directly contradicts itself. The reason
it doesn't extract audio just like any other program is because it does
|Proof of this is that the audio extracted from the CD is stored in Sound Designer II format (according to SoundApp).
First, TAE stores files in AIFF format, not
Sound Designer II format. SoundApp is giving you the name of an application
that can create AIFF fields; that's much different than it being saved in Sound Designer II format, which is proprietary.
But more importantly, what "format" the file is stored it doesn't prove anything in terms of how much error correction occurs or how accurate the extraction process is (see below).
|That's why the extracted files can be played by any program.
That's simply not true. The reason the files can be played by any program is because they're AIFF files -- the Mac equivalent of an uncompressed WAV file. In fact, if a file was saved as a Sound Designer II file, most audio apps wouldn't be able to play it.
|What I'm talking about is a program that copies every single bit off a CD track, including errors, bad blocks and the like. Those tracks are not usable by any program, all you can do with them is write them back onto a new CD, exactly as it was originally (at least according the your CD reader). In order to play the audio, it has to be extracted again.
I don't think you really understand how audio is being stored by these various applications. EAC does not
do a better job of extracting audio because of the file format in which it stores data. It does a better job of extracting audio because of the way
in which it extracts. Once the data is extracted, as long as the resulting data file does not use audio compresion, the "format" is irrelevant. It could be stored in an AIFF file, a WAV file, or a text file of 1s and 0s. The data is identical, and the data format is irrelevant.
|Think about it, if you're saying that TAE can extract a CD's track bit-for-bit and thereby creating 100% perfect extractions from CDs (assuming the media and drive are of sufficient quality), then don't you think there would be more talk of it, considering that no other program dares to make this claim (including EAC)?
No, I wouldn't expect that, because it's a Mac-only program. You rarely see "more talk of" great Mac applications
iTunes is by far the best MP3 player app on the market, for any platform, but you don't see Windows people talking about how great it is
That's in no way saying that TAE is better than (or possibly even as good as) EAC. I'm just saying that as a Mac application, you're not going to hear much about it.