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post #16 of 18
11/26/05 at 12:23am
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Originally Posted by s m @
^^^^ It is the most strange of all possible scenarios, but I find that it's almost never the drums that get isolated (for obvious reasons). Or rarely at least.
I'm not trying to slam you or anything, its just funny. I'm listening to Bitches Brew while I'm reading this post and right now the drums are playing only in the right channel. I do agree that it is very unusual.
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post #17 of 18
11/26/05 at 1:04am
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Originally Posted by aaroncort
I'm not trying to slam you or anything, its just funny. I'm listening to Bitches Brew while I'm reading this post and right now the drums are playing only in the right channel. I do agree that it is very unusual.
Why is this unusual?

It is only realistic. Since when were the drums in front of the other instruments, thus warranting a two-channel presentation?

And, you guys really have to stop thinking in terms of 'channels'. Jazz recordings are designed to be heard completely 3-dimensional. In a recording as sophisticated as this, depth, placement, and closeness are all easily-noticeable. If you cannot tell these things, then you either do not have a good enough ear to hear it, or your gear is quite below par (and, by below par, I mean 20 dollar walkman headphones through a PCDP).
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post #18 of 18
11/26/05 at 11:02am
[QUOTE=Aman]Why is this unusual?

It is only realistic. Since when were the drums in front of the other instruments, thus warranting a two-channel presentation?

Well there certainly is a difference between an instrument placed hard left or right on a soundstage and an individual track panned likewise. Most stereo jazz recordings try to replicate a stereo environment. Actually replicate is probably not the right word, as these recordings would be mostly live off the floor, with everybody in the same room and listening to each other acoustically. And yes, I agree that a drumset taking up the entire stereo spectrum is unnatural. But generally all of this is a product of multitracking, and there lies the problem for me. Early stereo recordings that involved multitracking and overdubs often would pan a mono drum track hard left or right. Usually bounced with a few other things. It sounds strange to me both on speakers and on headphones.

But having a drumset placed stategically left or right in a stereo soundstage sounds realistic and it is a stereo presentation. Just as much of a stereo presentation as anything else. Even something placed dead centre is a stereo presentation in this case, because there are other mics picking up the instrument.

Listening to some Monk now, he is playing pretty much stage right, but not just in the right channel.
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