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Got my Grover UR5s

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I recieved my UR5s a few days ago, but haven't had the chance to do much listening due to a tremendous increase in school workload.

I have listened to a pair of them on my phonostage and must say though, they are definitely impressive and a big improvement over the last grovers I'd heard UR2/3.

I'm not used to either the grover or the oritek to really do much of a comparission, but my first impression is that the grovers are warmer in ton then the X-1s. The grovers are also very dynamic, musical cables and maintain the excellent price performance ratio of the line.

I can't comment just yet about the transparancy of the cables as I haven't done any A/B testing and just haven't spent enough time with them, but I do suspect its gonna be quite difficult deciding on a winner.

Thats all for now.
post #2 of 96
Looking forward to further impressions. Can you also please compare with the AZ Wow that you are currently using in your system? Thanks!
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Keep us posted!
post #4 of 96
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Originally Posted by Gopher
I can't comment just yet about the transparancy of the cables as I haven't done any A/B testing and just haven't spent enough time with them, but I do suspect its gonna be quite difficult deciding on a winner.
With transparency as my preference over tone control it took me all of 15 seconds to prefer the Oritek. I suppose some will want their cables to be veiled, act as tone controls and prefer the grover.

Anyway, I was asked to return my UR5.

I won't miss them.
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Bad reviews don't get freebies.
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Grover Cable

Eyeteeth I asked for the cables back as I suspect a problem with them, and I want to look them over.
post #7 of 96
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I suppose some will want their cables to be veiled, act as tone controls
Certainly not my experience with the UR5 to date...
post #8 of 96
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Bad reviews don't get freebies.



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Originally Posted by grover
Eyeteeth I asked for the cables back as I suspect a problem with them, and I want to look them over.
There's nothing wrong with them. They are what they are, a Grover is a Grover is a Grover. They're very, very nice. It's only when compared to a different design, if transparency is the ambition, that they become second best.

I think Grover cables should remain Grover cables="smooth".
Remain the king of smooth, keep that hallmark.
That's what many people want.

I happen to prefer cables that are more transparent and that that attempted transparency is a cable's proper role in the audio chain.
post #9 of 96
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Originally Posted by eyeteeth
I happen to prefer cables that are more transparent and
I'm curious. What is cable transparency ? No cable's effects ?? Could you explain a bit more. What made you think Grover UR5 isn't transparent enough (or another cable's is more transparent) ?

Thanks. :-)
post #10 of 96
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Originally Posted by bordins
I'm curious. What is cable transparency ? No cable's effects ?? Could you explain a bit more. What made you think Grover UR5 isn't transparent enough (or another cable's is more transparent) ?
I suppose there can only be degrees of transparency, (with some day the summit being reached?)

What made the Grover no longer transparent enough was hearing the Oritek. Prior to that it was fine. As is the case with so much gear, there will always be a challenger that eventually comes along and knocks the champ out of the ring. The former champ was the greatest within his division (under $200/under $500?), but no longer is.

When a cable reveals much more detail without increased brightness, has a much larger soundstage and loads more space around instruments, then I feel safe in saying it is a more transparent cable. It is passing more information unmolested.
post #11 of 96
im finding the ur5 smooth(er), but i wouldnt stereotype all grovers as smooth cables.

and from what ive auditioned they are the opposite of vieled and i more than appreciate that characteristic. which is complimented very well by an accurate tone which isnt overly lush for the sake of... whatever.

i havnt heard the oritek yet but by the way eyeteeth has been describing them and comparing them to grover they must be borderline surgical. even if they are more detailed than the u5 it will be very difficult to acheive the same neutral tonality and vocal accuracy, but only if the oriteks better the grovers in that refinement would i consider them a better cable, and in turn more transparent.
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Originally Posted by euclid
they must be borderline surgical. even if they are more detailed than the u5 it will be very difficult to acheive the same neutral tonality and vocal accuracy, but only if the oritecks better the grovers in that refinement would i consider them a better cable.
They're not surgical, they're expansive and free. I just mentioned how until the champ is taken down, quite easily before your own eyes/ears, it's difficult to imagine it could be so.

Oh! It be so!
Consider the Oritek to be in a different league and it's easier to understand.
post #13 of 96
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Originally Posted by eyeteeth
They're not surgical, they're expansive and free. I just mentioned how until the champ is taken down, quite easily before your own eyes/ears, it's difficult to imagine it could be so.

Oh! It be so!
Consider the Oritek to be in a different league and it's easier to understand.
i dont disbelieve you, but you are making some very strong suggestions. if the oriteck do present more space and air id be hard pressed to believe they dont give up some low end to acheive it.
post #14 of 96
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Originally Posted by euclid
edit: i dont disbelieve you, but you are making some very strong suggestions. if the oriteck do present more space and air id be hard pressed to believe they dont give up some low end to acheive it.
That's not easy for me to say as I'm not a bass freak. I don't notice a brighter tonality. Do brighter cables do space and air better? I didn't know that.
If you were to go forensic and trace my posts in the music forum you'd find that I have more intolerance of brightness than others. I hate bright!
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Originally Posted by euclid
if the oriteck do present more space and air id be hard pressed to believe they dont give up some low end to acheive it.
They do it by better rejecting interference, by dropping the noise floor. At least that's the most logical answer I can come up with.

There has been feedback about this but not yet a comparison between the two cables (unless I've forgotten?) It may be a silence on the subject out of politeness? Or the big differences I hear are not heard by others? I was never sure I was doing the right thing being as bluntly honest as I was. But SMOOTHING over the truth didn't feel right either.

And although I've responded to a direct question, I'm not all that interested;the Grovers are behind me, I'm happier with the Oritek. I do get bored of a subject after a while. I'm content to say it's a system synergy thing and walk away, but I know it's more than that, it's a better cable.
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