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post #16 of 25
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post #17 of 25

Ety pressure

I have the same "problem" with the Ety's you describe, where the sound gets more faint as I push them in further. I think it's due to air pressure. First of all, I have never needed to push them in as far as others describe. But once they're in, if your ears feel pressure and therefore the volume too low, try tilting each earspeaker to the side, to allow some air in, then reposition it back where it was. I find this often releases the pressure.

Also, one key trick for getting the flange tips to fit (especially before you're used to them) is to wet them just a bit. Special earwax fluid is probably best, but I've occasionally just licked my finger and painted some saliva onto them before insertion.
post #18 of 25
Thread Starter 
i havent even tried the triple flange tips yet. i couldnt even get the small soft tips to fit in my ear and stay there let alone modding the flange and seeing if they fit. i dont see how they could.

i really think firstly its the size of my ear holes. i try pushing my pinky finger in and it goes in such a tiny amount like 3mm if that. and secondly i think i got bent ass ear canals which makes fitting the e4's even more difficult. foamies seem the only ones which provide the best sound due to their ability to expand around my bent and small ear canal.

ive even manaed to pushed the foamies literally all the way in so you cannot see any yellow foam at all which must be the way to do it.

i really will have to take some picutres though to show my ears and how the e4's sit in my ears at an angle and not cradled that much by my ear. ill be taking pictures in like 3 weeks time. hopefully things might have changed by then, like the size of my ear canal by constantly jamming in any other tips other than foamies.lol.

thanks for the info though.
post #19 of 25
Thread Starter 
arite well after more listening its getter better an better but its still kind of strange.

when listening to music i find myself pushing the volume up to 20+ with the maximum being 22 out of 40. this is with VBR and CBR ranging from 192-320.

now as far as i know many people dont turn up the volume as much as i do. im thinking it could be a variety of things.

i could be having the volume loud because the e4's are still not far enough, however they must be now because i cannot see any yellow foam or at times even the e4's metal ring.

i could just be deaf so i have to put the volume higher.

my thinking is that it might also be that compared to my sennhesier mx550, the shure e4's are less sensitive which would mean you need to put the volume higher? (correct me if im wrong). but then i dont get it seeing as these are IEMs, i shouldnt have to put it so loud.

i listen to my mx550's on 20 volume so i dont get how i could be listening to the e4's at 20 and even 22.
post #20 of 25
I remember I had mine E4c's at 20 to begin with... now I have them at 5! Just try turning the volume down slightly over a period of time...gradually your ears should adjust.

Just a thought... did you wet the tips when you were trying to put them in? (not foamies ) I tend to pull my left ear up with my right hand to open my ear canal then push them in...then wiggle it a bit.
post #21 of 25
Thread Starter 
hopefully i will get used to it. they are seriously different to normal earbuds. IEMs seem to be in a totally different experience from the way the sound is made to the way its delivered.

i still havent worn them out yet. its just been indoor use.

what ive found with the rubber tips is the small seems to small because they slide out of my ear and the medium tips just dont fit and ofcourse theres nothing inbetween. my ears are in pain from yanking them so for now ill stick to foamies (",)
post #22 of 25
Thread Starter 
well its been what 3 weeks since i got my preciouses.

the fit seems to be getting reasonably better with the foamies, however they do start to hurt my ears if u keep pulling them out and putting them back in.

my source is the iaudio m3 as i might have mentioned before but now im back from university, i had a chance to test these things with my home theatre amp , a sony str-db2000. i coupled the iaudio m3 to the amp using its line out so the source didnt change.

im no audiophile but i could definatly hear a difference, a more cleaner, refined sound comming out from the amp. i dared myself to turn the volume up a few dB, then a few more and wow these babys can really handle it. i thought they would have blown up or something but they just seem to want to keep pushing and pushing. my ears would definatly give up before the e4's could.

there is something which i do still find confusing.

ive always thought that seeing as IEM's go in the ear, they would require less volume than say ordinary buds (i also own a pair of mx550's). ive also heard on these forums that people with IEM's generally use very little volume, even though everyone has different sources, i generally get the feeling that noone listens to IEM's loudly.

back to the point, when i use my mx550's on my m3 i listen to them at volume 20 (the m3 goes up to 40). now i thought that when i get my e4's i will be listening to them at volume 10 or so but in actual fact i find myself listening to them at 21 or lower if its a crap song.

i cant think why i would need the same level of volume. well actually i can think of a few things but i dont know if it could be them.

1. i might not have a good seal, but when i use them im saticefied with the bass levels so it cant really be that.

2. it might be the fact that the e4's require more power to be driven which means higher volume levels (am i correct on this?).

3. it could just be the fact that my ears are not as sensitive as the rest of you lot out there.


wow this post is long but one last question. how much juice roughly would my amp be providing the e4's. ive looked in the instruction manual and it doesnt give any power figures for the phones out.

also would i be doing damage to the e4's with high levels of volume. i wouldnt think so because they seem to be coping with the high volumes quite well.


thanks
post #23 of 25
Thread Starter 
anyone?
post #24 of 25
i think someone mentioned it before, but if you feel "air pressure" in your ear after you put them in, i find that this makes the music sound much softer and less clear, and if i pull the top of my ear (i cant remember the correct word for it, but the top of my cartilage) and the air pressure escapes, suddenly the music becomes much clearer and louder. Also, if your foamies squish up, sometimes they squish and cover the sound tube opening.

Ive got the same problems with my iems, in that my ears are quite small so its hard to have them fit properly, and my left ear is like fricken deformed inside compared to my right ear because it bends all over the shop.

Hmm, one last thing, ive been letting my mate audition my iems, and he also pumps up the sound much more than i do. ie: i have it on 4-6 out of 40, and he will put it on 10-12... so i think its something you get accustomed to over time, but of course i think its better to start as low as possible. I definitely decreased from 20/40 with buds, to 15 with sharp md33 canal phones, to 8 with the same canal phones about 3 weeks later, and now its at 4/5 with um2s.

Good luck with it!

Terry
post #25 of 25
Thread Starter 
from what you said it seems that its either air pressure, or it could be that i just like my music erm very loud orrrrr it could just mean that im deaf (",)
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