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Cardas Neutral & Golden Reference Interconnects

post #1 of 36
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Hey! I was taking a hard look at my written financial goals for this year and how I'm doing with my savings strategy. Good news for me is that I already hit my avowed goal about four days ago. So, whatever else I earn and save from this week forward is in excess of that target number.

I have been racking up the overtime at Barnes & Noble. So far, 30+ hours into this month and Black Friday, Christmas, & New Years are not here yet. I thought of just saving up the money, but here I am with this thread.

I contacted an old Audiogon seller who has a mint pair of used Cardas Golden Reference Interconnects (0.5 meters RCA) for sale and the original genuine certificates of authenticity. It is a good deal off the list MSRP. I've done business with this same guy before and I initiated the inquiry through an e-mail. I will be in a financial position to afford them this Friday, November 18th, 2005 with no financial problems. I researched the hell out of both the Cardas Neutral Reference and Golden Reference Interconnects so I know what to expect.

So, do you think I ought to just treat myself? I plan to keep both and perhaps write some reviews to keep the ink in my fountain pen flowing on paper, but doing on average of 52+ hours per week @ 8 consecutive days per work week is tough to get some quality time for quality writing done.

Again, I'm not in any financial dire straits. I've already accomplished my savings goals. I love the George Cardas sound though it is a bit dated and I specifically want his top of the line cabling to retain consistency of sound. That's the key. I can't tell you how many posts and threads I have committed to Head-Fi stating that I would someday own the Cardas Golden Reference Power Interconnects. I figure now is the opportunity and I'm only 28 years old so I ain't getting any younger by telling everybody that I'll own them someday in the near future.

What do you think? It's either this or a fountain pen, which by the way, I may be able to save up for next month if my kind store manager schedules massive overtime for me because there simply are not enough employees to handle the increased volume in sales. This is the truth at my store. In fact, I've been doing some checking and I'm the only one he gave OT to for the past three weeks straight including today's shift.

I could save the money, but I'd feel like I would deny myself of realizing a long waited desire to own the top of the line Cardas cables - piece by piece if necessary. Somebody say something to push me in one direction. Agh!
post #2 of 36
Life is short. As long as you're doing yourself no harm and are not overextending yourself by spending the money, why not treat yourself to something that you believe will give you many hours of listening pleasure? Go for it if you feel as strongly about these cables (and pen) as you seem to...
post #3 of 36
with discerning gear, those are some fine cables. I had a .5 meter pair for a good while, passed them on when i sold the rig...

do it up.
post #4 of 36
Go for it. I have had the Golden Refs for about 2 years now and I like them a lot although I have been trying some other cables that do away with some issues I had with the Golden Refs. I will write up some thoughs about the ic's in a couple weeks.
post #5 of 36
Look at it this way.....
You'll never have to buy cables again

I just changed all of mine from the Neutral To the Golden and I'm lovin' it.
Same basic sound but with more fullness/richness and even more resolution.
TR
post #6 of 36
Whenever I get into such decisions myself, I always just remind myself...money is money, something I can always make more of sooner or later. Musical satisfaction on the other hand is something I consider to be priceless, particularly in light of the constant discovery of new music. As long as I don't end up living on the streets (and believe it or not, in regards to fountain pens, there have been some people that come very close to bankrupting themselves trying to collect pens), then I see no reason to withhold myself from getting whatever it takes to make me happy with my music. If you believe this cable will increase your happiness and satisfaction with your music, then you should go for it without any hesitation.

The Cardas Golden Reference is a cable I've been curious about for a long time, and I have been itching to audition it. If you go for it, please give us some impressions on it!
post #7 of 36
I am auditioning a pair of XLR and RCA Golden reference cables from TTVJ with the G08 loaner.

Initial reaction, man they are much much larger than I thought they would be. Even though they are thick, they are very flexible and lightweight for how thick they are.

Sonic impressions? Going to need more time for that one....

-Ed
post #8 of 36
I got a pair off MJG a while back. I eventually sold them because the length was too short in my system. I would of liked to keep them.

I never tried the neutral reference cables. The Jena lab symphonies cables are kind of similar to the Cardas as they have been recommended to me by another headfier.
post #9 of 36
Thread Starter 
I will be purchasing the cables sometime today. I got two different ads to choose from and there is a pretty significant difference in prices. A pair of one meter Cardas Golden Reference Interconnects (RCA single ended unbalanced) costs $917 USD. That is more than my Ultimate Ears Ue-10 PRO earphones. I think that I have reached a new stratosphere in hi-fi spending because when I get them, my entire AV system will cost $9,000 USD. I am only 28 and working full time in retail sales. The Absolute Sound stops making complete hi-fi loudspeaker systems over $6800 USD.

WTF?!

I received 2 out of 5 US Postal Service scheduling notices today. I have two exams scheduled on November 29th & 30th, 2005. When I score 95% or higher on one of these 5 exams, I can start a new career with the USPS as a letter carrier and start at $37,750 USD gross which is a lot more than what I earn now, but next year I'll start working for them. I also discovered that the USPS will pay for my entire graduate school education (including Cornell & Columbia or NYU @ $50,000 USD per year) if I work for at least 1 year full time and take courses related to their corporate jobs such as public admin or business management or stuff like that.

I have to get these Cardas cables no matter what. One thing about me is that once I focus on a target, nothing detracts me and I keep shooting unti l hit my target. Otherwise, this thread will become "un-useless."

OMG I am so tired that I need to sleep.
post #10 of 36
Ouch, this thread is going to hurt. I'm using the Neutral Reference with one of my systems and have been happy with it though I haven't had other decent cable around to compare it against. That Golden Reference sounds really good though... I'd say, buy it, what kinda wimp buys a pen?
post #11 of 36
Thread Starter 
If I pick on you, then the whole fuzzy team mafia is comin' after me, cappiche? As both Clint Eastwood and George H. Bush once said, "Go ahead, read my sig!"

When I get these super crazy expensive cables, I will write a brief series of impressions. I already know what to write, "every mark that the Neutral Reference scores high on, the Golden Reference aces with perfect scores." None of that silly audiofool language like "warmth" or "natural" or "organic." Come to think of it, I will keep both ICs just to spite you! I will also keep writing on their virtues respective to each other until there is an unofficial official team George Cardas-fi. Call me Emperor Wu and you can be my lieutenant governor.

I will now get my beauty sleep and listen to the Wicked Broadway soundtrack. A har har har!
post #12 of 36
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Originally Posted by gpalmer
Ouch, this thread is going to hurt. I'm using the Neutral Reference with one of my systems and have been happy with it though I haven't had other decent cable around to compare it against. That Golden Reference sounds really good though... I'd say, buy it, what kinda wimp buys a pen?
You on the G08 Loaner list?

Ask Todd, and you can check out the Golden Reference cables, since both XLR and RCA versions are with the G08 Loaner.

-Ed
post #13 of 36
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Originally Posted by Edwood
You on the G08 Loaner list?

Ask Todd, and you can check out the Golden Reference cables, since both XLR and RCA versions are with the G08 Loaner.

-Ed
I'm going to have to do that. I didn't originally sign up since I've heard the G08 enough times though not in depth. Unfortuantely my 588 is back in CA so I can't do an in-depth comparison of the two. That would really make for a good time... Well, so long as you're not my wallet...
post #14 of 36
The difference is not night and day between my own Star Quad based cables, but the treble is definitely clearer and more defined with the Golden References. A little more "airy" sounding too. It's not a good match for my K1000's as it get's a bit too bright. But with my R10's, oh happy days.

But I'm finding it difficult to justify spending more money on cables than my DAC. If they were less than $300, I'd probably buy them in a second, but I usually need at least 1meter, and nearly $1K is just too much.

Maybe when I have a $10K+ source someday.

Maybe if I can find a Golden Reference cable in really horrible condition that I can restore....

-Ed
post #15 of 36
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Originally Posted by Welly Wu
I received 2 out of 5 US Postal Service scheduling notices today. I have two exams scheduled on November 29th & 30th, 2005. When I score 95% or higher on one of these 5 exams, I can start a new career with the USPS ........
Passing score is 70% BTW
Guess you're pretty confident? It's harder than it looks (I've taken it twice in the past).
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