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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
If I get 1/4 to RCA adaptors, how much will I lose in sound quality? I mean, I don't want to lose my outlaw PCAs, and I don't want to pay money for the bolder cables. Any help?
post #2 of 16
The adapters don't really lose a lot. The best is by Calrad, but those are hard to come by.
post #3 of 16
I don't think you can have both...Using an adaptor with something like Outlaw cables would kinda defeat the benefit of the outlaw.

One option is to get the Art DI/O modded, and have regular RCA jacks put in, but this is quite expensive (though would also improve the DI/O in other ways as well, and well worth it). But if you ask me, you won't notice anything (or at least very little) if you get some cheap Radio Shack adaptors (this is assuming you only use the DI/O with the Denon 370 and Cmoy).

Since you already have outlaw cables, i'd go with the latter route. You can get the DI/O modded at a later date when you upgrade the rest of your system, and take full advantage of the outlaws.
post #4 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hmm, well, I don't use the cmoy anymore. Currently, I'm about to start building my meta42(prob by the end of the week). I looked into modding it, but iirc, its very expensive.

Hmmm, calrad jacks. Anyone have any opinions on them?



is this the one you're talking about? only $3. . .
post #5 of 16
No, this is the one I'm talking about. It's got teflon insulation, and was found by someone on Audio Asylum. If you can find it, cost will be about $10 (if you find it and it's cheaper, you'll be doing a public service to DI/O owners). AFAIK, it only comes in a right angle version

post #6 of 16
Thread Starter 
Do you have a model number?
post #7 of 16
If you had used the search function and entered "Calrad", then looked at the thread called "connectors", you would have found:

http://www.calrad.com/calrad/35series.shtml

35-487
Audio adapter,
1/4" mono plug to
right angle RCA
jack, teflon
insulator. Gold.
post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 
FOUND IT!

How does $4.85 sound guys!!!!???

Model 35-487

http://www.ba-electronics.com/audioadp.htm

Booyeah! $2.50 shipping.
post #9 of 16
Quote:
Originally posted by Hirsch
No, this is the one I'm talking about. It's got teflon insulation, and was found by someone on Audio Asylum. If you can find it, cost will be about $10 (if you find it and it's cheaper, you'll be doing a public service to DI/O owners). AFAIK, it only comes in a right angle version

So...these are gold rather than nickel (like RS) and have teflon insulation. Just out of curiousity what does the teflon add?

Oh, I did order a couple today since I really don't like extra connections anyway - but I'm not willing (yet) to have it modded. The ordering process was smooth.
post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hmm, the ones for $5?
post #11 of 16
Quote:
Originally posted by andrzejpw
Hmm, the ones for $5?
Yes, the ones for $4.85. My total bill was $12.20. Thank you for finding them.
post #12 of 16
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by ChenaynayC

Yes, the ones for $4.85. My total bill was $12.20. Thank you for finding them.
hmm, let me know how those work out. . .
post #13 of 16
Quote:
Originally posted by andrzejpw


hmm, let me know how those work out. . .
They work fine over here. I've got a couple pairs of them.
post #14 of 16
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Quote:
Just out of curiousity what does the teflon add?
Hi ChenaynayC,

Lower 'da' (dielectric absorption)
post #15 of 16
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Originally posted by puppyslugg

Lower 'da' (dielectric absorption)
Well, that clears it up for me. I've been doing a little reading to figure out what that is. I am not an electronic guru!

But, my take is that when a signal/current is passed through capacitors some of it is absorbed and collects around the connections or on the surface. The capacitors are selected/designed to deal with a certain amount of current coming through and this buildup can affect how well they deal with the expected amount of current. This can change the signal it passes through which is not a good thing since our goal in life is have signals go through untouched. We might hear these changes as 'noise' or it could affect the strength of the signal.

Whew! I think I got that part...which leads me to wonder why these particular adapters (which are not capacitors) are 'better' because they have teflon insulation? Apparently, this absorption can also occur in wires that a signal is being passed through, thus the lower the dielectric absorption rate of the insulation the less signal is loss/distorted.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Unless, I don't have a clue, in which case feel free to straighten me out.
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