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Some initial impressions on the D-335...

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This is an interesting unit. It sounds closest to the D-35 of my collection, but, seems to have a bit more bite on the high end. One thing that I've noticed that I find interesting is the, for lack of a better term, "width" of the presentation. I didn't realise some of these Peter Gabriel tracks I'm listening to had so much depth, and I've listened to this CD on everything from a cheap Coby CD player to a Meridian deck...bizarre. The music just seems to come alive compared to my other players...as if it sounds less like a recording, or something of that sort. This is primarily experienced in the line-out, I'll note. The headphone out sounds noticeably different; darker, warmer. It's also punchy, though, even with bass boost off. Still has depth, though.

It's nicely built, too. The top is some sort of aluminum or magnesium based material. The bottom feels like nylon, which is a bit unusual. It could be polycarbonate, though. It's a bit hard to tell. The reason I mentioned nylon is because the density and appearance is suspiciously similar to it. However, polycarbonate is much more common and, so, seems more probable. In either case, the plastic portion of the unit feels as sturdy as the metal portion. The panels fit together closer than I'm used to seeing with Sony units, too. Overall, _very_ solid build and sturdy feeling.

Power from the headphone out seems pretty beefy, especially for a post-1992 unit (this one is from 1994). I was keeping it around 2-3 on my MDR-E888LPs with an air conditioner and television in the background...nice.

Overall, it seems to combine what I like about my Technics SL-XPS900, with what I like about my D-465, with what I like about the D-35. I'm honestly a bit surprised it has gotten so little attention here. I imagine it must have something to do with the relative rarity of the unit. Oh well!

Just thought I'd give this initial impression for your guys' consumption. I'll try to do some reviews of units later. If anyone has particular suggestions on what to test, how to test, how to describe, etc...let me know as that will help me out a lot
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Thanks for the info... the headphone output of the D-33 is similar (dark, warmer), possibly because the headphone amp has bass boost circuit built in, so in a sense bass boost is always on.

Always good to hear stuff about the less well known models. There's a D-160 I'm watching on eBay but probably won't buy because I can't find anything whatsoever about it. The digital readout is LED rather than LCD, so I know it's an 80s model, but that's it. I'll probably pick up a third D-171 instead (chuckling...). I don't think the DACs in the older players can match the speed and detail of newer DACs, altho they can probably match or beat everything else.
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Well, it's brighter than the D-33. The 33 is pretty dark, overall. It does share the punchiness, though. The D-335 is quicker and more detailed, though. It uses a 1bit DAC; perhaps the same one as the D-321, though, I don't know for sure.

I also noticed it seems to provide more separation between instruments than my other players. I don't know what that's called *shrug*

A very interesting player, indeed...
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Originally Posted by Filburt
Well, it's brighter than the D-33. The 33 is pretty dark, overall.
Line-out of the D-33 sounds pretty close to neutral to my ears... in fact closer than any other PCDP I've heard to date. If it is a little dark, it doesn't hurt acoustic instrument timbres any.

Headphone out is definitely dark, almost muddy... don't care for it much.

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It does share the punchiness, though. The D-335 is quicker and more detailed, though. It uses a 1bit DAC; perhaps the same one as the D-321, though, I don't know for sure.
Interesting. I tend to like 1bit DACs better.... wish the D-335 were more common. There are few vintage PCDP's that are both common like the D-33 and still sound as good or better. I would probably like the D-33 better if it were more detailed, although sometimes detail is overrated (particularly with poor recordings). What I miss most when I listen to other PCDP's is that resume feature... simple/basic, but really a killer feature IMO. That one alone would sell me on the D-33, even if it sounded only average.

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I also noticed it seems to provide more separation between instruments than my other players. I don't know what that's called *shrug*
Hmm, probably "separation between instruments" .
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Originally Posted by fewtch
Line-out of the D-33 sounds pretty close to neutral to my ears... in fact closer than any other PCDP I've heard to date. If it is a little dark, it doesn't hurt acoustic instrument timbres any.

Headphone out is definitely dark, almost muddy... don't care for it much.
Well, my father had an old D-33 that I used to use, so, I'm familiar with what it sounds like at least to some degree. It did seem fairly neutral out of the line-out, but, I think the D-335 is still different. It has more "air" to it (?) and is more exciting overall. It shares some traits with the D-465 in that respect, though, has a wider overall sort of soundstage. My principal complaint about the D-465 was that it seemed a bit narrower in that respect than my old Technics SL-XPS900; this player seems to solve that problem whilst retaining many of the traits I like about the D-465.


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Interesting. I tend to like 1bit DACs better.... wish the D-335 were more common. There are few vintage PCDP's that are both common like the D-33 and still sound as good or better. I would probably like the D-33 better if it were more detailed, although sometimes detail is overrated (particularly with poor recordings). What I miss most when I listen to other PCDP's is that resume feature... simple/basic, but really a killer feature IMO. That one alone would sell me on the D-33, even if it sounded only average.
D-335 has a resume feature. Yes, I like that feature too . You may want to check out the D-34, if you like the D-33 form factor. From what I've observed, it's pretty much a D-33 with a 1bit DAC and some other minor tweaks to it.

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Hmm, probably "separation between instruments" .
Hmm, I don't know! I figured someone would have some name for it like "articulate"
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Originally Posted by Filburt
D-335 has a resume feature. Yes, I like that feature too . You may want to check out the D-34, if you like the D-33 form factor. From what I've observed, it's pretty much a D-33 with a 1bit DAC and some other minor tweaks to it.
Thanks... I have my eye on a D-34, but can't decide whether to get it... it would be about $20 after shipping and all that. It's either going to be that, or a third D-171 (so you don't think I'm crazy, one of my D171s is trashed appearance-wise, and the other has an intermittent headphone output, so I just want a perfect one ).
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Originally Posted by fewtch
Thanks... I have my eye on a D-34, but can't decide whether to get it... it would be about $20 after shipping and all that. It's either going to be that, or a third D-171 (so you don't think I'm crazy, one of my D171s is trashed appearance-wise, and the other has an intermittent headphone output, so I just want a perfect one ).
Well, you seem to have some affinity for the D-33, so the D-34 may be worth trying out
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Originally Posted by Filburt
Well, you seem to have some affinity for the D-33, so the D-34 may be worth trying out
Yeah, I do like the D-33... took awhile to grow on me, I really didn't care for it at first. It's a very relaxed, smooth presentation you can listen to for hours without fatigue. Still considering the D-34, I talked to the eBay seller and they sounded doubtful about its condition, which is a tipoff that it may have issues. Could always wait until another one comes up.
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Well, there are currently three for sale on eBay, from what I can tell
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After reading this thread ive taken out my mint condition D335 off its box and it is indeed amazing sounding in its line out. Thanks for re kindling my interest in old PDCP's. I now have about 15 of them to A-B and see which one has the best line out!

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