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Have a chance to upgrade portable setup...worth it?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Hi all,

I've lurked here off and on for years, and 2-3 years ago I "dipped my toe in" by purchasing an Airhead (version with a light) and a pair of ER6's (not the "i" version..didn't exist) to match up with my iPod. That combo has traveled all over the world with me and I've been pretty pleased. Amazing how nice it is to wear isolators on those long plane rides.

I've gotten the go ahead from my husband to upgrade a little (have ~$150) and I'd like some advice on how to proceed.

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I listen to different types of music on the iPod: some jazz, older alternative rock, a little classical (mostly save that for the home stereo setup, though, and the NHTs). I am pretty picky about my music ripping, am in the middle of transferring my large vinyl collection over (and obsessing over getting my vinyl "sound" just right).

I have access to a pair of Grado 80's along with the ER6s (when I can wrestle them away from my husband ). Also sometimes use PCX250 Sennheisers while flying.


So, any advice on how to improve my setup? I *did* just buy the Sik Ram Din, so that should help.

I've thought about switching to the ER6is (and I could probably do that AND get a new amp if you guys thought that would be a good idea). I thought about just getting 4Ps, but wasn't convinced it was a great move. As I see it my Amp options (obviously has to be portable) are the PA2V2, GoVibe or the Portaphile (could go to the V2 I think).

How would you guys put this together?

Thanks a million?

Jil
post #2 of 14
Well, I can't offer any personal experience, as I don't use an ipod, but you might want to take a look at this thread here , with some favorable reactions concerning the ER6i + PA2V2 combo. But I don't know whether that would be an improvement from the Airhead you already have.

I have the ER6is, but have not been amping them much, as they are usually for my minimalist rig with the Zen Micro. But I may fool around with it soon, as I now have 3 amps to compare (Portaphile, Little Dot II, Little Dot Micro) & the LD Micro is a nice size to pair with the Zen. If I notice anything interesting I'll post impressions in a new thread.

Just from what I've read, the 4Ps would be a nice step up in the headphone department. So the real question is, would the Airhead/4P combo sound good. Hopefully, someone who has heard this combo can comment. I doubt the ER6i by itself would be a huge improvement over the ER6s you have, unless there's something in particular in the 6i sound signature you're looking for.

While I don't think the ER6is need an amp to shine (especially with my Zen Micro, which does not have a line-out), others here say they perceive a discernible benefit from amping them. I understand the ER6 is a different can (again, based on reports -- I haven't tried the ER6), so you might do a search in the amps forum to see what people pair with those.

For amps, I'll tell you that I like the Portaphile V2, although be warned -- it is (to my ears anyway) a highly detailed, fairly forward sound. But if you like Grado SR-80s (as I do, very much), you might enjoy the Portaphile a lot. But check here (both amps & headphone forums) to see what people think of that combo. Also, again, I'm not sure how much of an upgrade the Portaphile would be compared with the Airhead.

Hopefully you'll get a better reaction from someone with more experience (I'm real new at all this, so my estimation, and my ears, could be way off.)

Good luck!
Tom
post #3 of 14
I used to am the Er6i with a PAV2 and the sound was fantastic. I have upgraded to an AE-1 and it is awesome. I concur with htbyron in that the PAV2 may not be much of an upgrade over the Airhead. However it would be smaller and the batteries would last longer.
post #4 of 14
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Originally Posted by jc_tardiff
Hi all,

I've lurked here off and on for years, and 2-3 years ago I "dipped my toe in" by purchasing an Airhead (version with a light) and a pair of ER6's (not the "i" version..didn't exist) to match up with my iPod. ...
May be you tell us which version of Airhead you have? Current four AAA battery version also has green and red LED lights, not sure which one you have. If you have an older version of Airhead, newer version of Airhead sounds much better and more dynamic. To me, Airhead's strength is its versatility in driving two headphones in parallel, crossfeed, and able to switch to DC for MUCH improved sound while you are away from home. To my ears, when Total Airhead (Airhead should be fairly similar) is powered by my 13V DC walwart adaptor, its sound nearly approaches Gilmore light. It does lack a bit of definition in bass, slightly less transparent (more noticeable using high impedance cans), but excellent considering TAH is a mere portable amp.

Frankly, I rarely use my portable amp while I'm on the road with the portable phones. I often carry my iPod on a belt-clip case and plug ER-4S without the amp when I'm on the domestic flights (especially walking between terminals during connection flights). I'm quite satisfied running Ety ER-4S directly from my iPod (4th Generation). I have compared running ER4S directy from iPod and using few different amps including Headroom Max w/ Stepped Attenuator. Amps do improve the sound, definition, amount of bass, transparency and details, but I find ER-4S without amp still sounds pretty darn good off iPod. Of course, if I go international flight, I do take my TAH.

Now, this doesn't mean you will get satisfactory results with ANY portable device using ER-4S. I would not dream of using my Rio, single AAA battery powered Sony MD player, nor typical personal CD players with ER-4S. You can barely hear the music and sound degraded considerably with that option. ER-4P version is supposedly better for its low impedance rating, but I didn't like its overall sound when I compared with 4S version using iPod w/ or w/out the amp. Your mileage may vary so take this as a few grains of salt
post #5 of 14
I think the best bet is to upgrade to ER4S.....it really is an improvement over the ER6, more transparency and silkier highs and mids. Overall, it would be a noticeable and obvious improvement (or at least change)

I don't think a change to the 6i's would be necessarily for the better if you are already getting good results from your Airhead/6 combo. Cleaning up the source (Sik Din) is an excellent move, but moving to 4S (or even 4P if you intend to run unamped) would really move the listening to the next level.
post #6 of 14
Honestly, I wouldn't upgrade anything at all. That sounds like it served you in good stead and technology hasn't improved to the point yet where an additional $150 would take giant steps over that rig. Instead I'd look into an external USB DAC to go with your laptop to listen to your tunes when you're off the plane and at a desk (or on the bed in the hotel room, whatever your preference), assuming you have all your tunes on your laptop, or that you use a laptop alot. This way you can access your whole library of tunes, and have improved DAC as a source, and will serve as a "transportable" option to your already excellent portable rig.
post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 
Ah, guys, thank you for the thoughtful replies (one of the reasons this has long been one of my favorite forums). go_vtec, the Airhead is the single headphone version, single green light for the cross ---from at least 2003, maybe 2002.

I figured this would be a tough decision --I've gone back and forth many times, I just haven't been able to convince myself that any of the sub $200 amps would really improve things.

One of the resons I originally went with the ER6 + Airhead combo was that it was (at that time) very middle of the road. So now it appears that I am caught in the middle. Interestingly, I have considered stepping up to the er4p/s as I mentioned. That may really be the way to go and hold off until I can step up to an AE-1 or something like that.

So for now, maybe the Airhead (maybe look into rechargeables for it) + iPod + Sik Din + ER4p or ER4s ? I will have to search the forums to get a feel for the consensus on the ER4s/p question.

Hi Jahn, for a long time I traveled with an Echo Indigo so that I could share movies with my daughter while traveling and also share my music with her. More recently I have used an M-Audio Transit, but you have spurred my curiosity and I will dig around to see what else is available.

Interesting decisions to make!

Jil
post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by jc_tardiff
Ah, guys, thank you for the thoughtful replies (one of the reasons this has long been one of my favorite forums). go_vtec, the Airhead is the single headphone version, single green light for the cross ---from at least 2003, maybe 2002.

I figured this would be a tough decision --I've gone back and forth many times, I just haven't been able to convince myself that any of the sub $200 amps would really improve things.

One of the resons I originally went with the ER6 + Airhead combo was that it was (at that time) very middle of the road. So now it appears that I am caught in the middle. Interestingly, I have considered stepping up to the er4p/s as I mentioned. That may really be the way to go and hold off until I can step up to an AE-1 or something like that.

So for now, maybe the Airhead (maybe look into rechargeables for it) + iPod + Sik Din + ER4p or ER4s ? I will have to search the forums to get a feel for the consensus on the ER4s/p question.

Hi Jahn, for a long time I traveled with an Echo Indigo so that I could share movies with my daughter while traveling and also share my music with her. More recently I have used an M-Audio Transit, but you have spurred my curiosity and I will dig around to see what else is available.

Interesting decisions to make!

Jil
If you like the airhead, you could always keep with the Headroom mode and get the new Bithead - it has a USB input and acts as an external DAC and headphone amp, and still has crossfeed and two headphone outputs I believe. Sounds like a fair incremental upgrade to me for your laptop/portable usage.
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
Oh, no ...wandering around the Headroom site was a mistake.

That Micro with the Desktop module looks great. And then the option to add the DAC!

Holy cow...husband will not be happy with this.

JT
post #10 of 14
The Micro sounds amazing with the DM, but it's quite a bit larger in size compared to an Airhead, and battery life is only a few hours with rechargeables.

But having an option to get the DAC module later makes it a great little system to start with. The DAC is a league ahead of the one built into the Bithead, but of course, you would expect it to be since the combo would be $600
post #11 of 14
Thread Starter 
Yup, warpdriver....The minute I saw the Micro combo the wheels started turning in my head. It seems like a great way to build a nice system and isn't too much of a financial hit if done in stages. And I enjoy dealing with the Headroom guys.

I don't mind the larger size of the Micro vs Airhead, I travel pretty "geared up" as it is, even on business, so a few extra 9V and a slightly larger amp is not a burden.

So I pulled the trigger . Looking forward to it. And my husband didn't mind, great guy!

The funny thing is that I had originally planned on using a $150 JandR gift card to move up to the ER4Ps. Since my plan has been turned on its head, I have started to consider keeping my ER6s for travel (it annoys the family if I wear them too much at home since I can't hear them when they call me ) and getting one of the good deals on Sennheisers (HD555 = $120, HD595=$190, HD590=$170 and HD580=$150). A nice pair of *comfortable* over the ears may be a nice complement to the Etys. Guess I better head over to the headphone forum...

Boy is this place a wallet minefield or what?

Thanks again,

JT
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by jc_tardiff
So I pulled the trigger . Looking forward to it. And my husband didn't mind, great guy!
Did you get the amp? It's a fine choice and what I was thinking of suggesting. It should synergize pretty well with the Etys. Did you get the desktop module? It cuts the battery life in half but really ups the sound quality.
post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by jc_tardiff
So I pulled the trigger . Looking forward to it. And my husband didn't mind, great guy!
Congrats! That's an excellent choice. The Micro w/ Desktop module is an excellent battery-powered amp. I've been using mine with the MicroDAC, and using output from a portable DVD player, iPod, or an iRiver iHP-140. In transit, I use an iPod into MicroAmp into ER-4S. In hotel, I use pDVD, MicroDAC, MicroAmp, and Grado RS-1's. Nice rig with the option of watching movies as well as music listening. The only time I need to plug anything in is to recharge batteries.

Just don't let your husband steal your rig!
post #14 of 14
Thread Starter 
I'm still grinning over this purchase, I never make snap decisions (and I have been mulling over this for awhile in general), but it just seemed like the "right" move.

Yup, gpalmer ... I definitely went with the Desktop Module. Virtually every post on the subject was raving about the sound and I figured that while the portable module would definitely be a step up from the older Airhead, I wanted to go all the way with it. Besides, going with the Portable Module seemed to be the sort of decision that I might question after awhile (you know, not regret, but, "I wonder what that Desktop mod would have sounded like) ....and I'd rather put the $200 cost of a module upgrade into the Micro DAC .

Hey Hirsch, what you describe is *exactly* my goal! I already have a pDVD (a nice Samsung I snagged on a pricing error for $100). I'm holding on to the ER6s for now, but will eventually bump up to the ER4s for travel. I'm hoping to add the MicroDAC by the end of the year. I've also decided that my traveling rig deserves a decent pair of full sized cans (I can't wear the ER6s constantly) ...so I'm heading down to J&R this AM to pick up a pair of Senn HD580 or HD595s. Should be amusing when I pull out my amped iPod to try them out.

Luckily for me, while my husband loves music, his obsession is performance cars ...makes my love of high-end technical things (computers, HiFi and cameras) pretty minor league!

Cheers!

Jil
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