Originally Posted by Thaddy
I guess I forgot to mention that I previously owned the HD580's for 1.5 years. During that time, I had went from using the stock cable, to (at one point) owning the Oehlbach, Headphile, and Clou Blue cables.
Using the line out from my Karma, as well as my modded 0404 into my old PPA, I could barely tell a difference. Yeah, the difference was there, but I really think you're going overboard here. It's not a tenfold increase, bottom line, and I think some other members would agree with me as well. Yes, you will pick up on small improvements here and there, but it's not a 100% all across the spectrum huge increase in sound quality.
It's generally acknowledged that the Oelbach, Headphile, Smurf, and Clou Blue cables are not the last word in Senn replacement cables, and perhaps that's why some of the participants in this thread are having such a difficult time with my ten fold increase claim - they've never actually heard what a good cable can do for the 580's. For commercial cables I've owned the Cardas and the Moon Silver Dragon, and with both of those cables there was a huge
improvement in sound quality over the stock cable no matter how good or bad the system was used to listen to them on. I've also built five DIY cables for my 580's, and to my ears with each and every one of those cables there was again at least a ten fold increase in sound quality over the stock cable. I think many members would agree that the stock 580/600 cable sounds thin, dark, dull, closed in, and features a midbass hump, and the replacement cables that I've heard dramatically improved each and everyone of those shortcomings.
The bottom line is that folks have every right to say that they
haven't heard dramatic increases in sound quality with the cables they've
auditioned on their 580's, but they don't have the right to deny that someone else doesn't hear dramatic increases in sound quality with the cables that they've auditioned on their 580's. Ridiculous indeed.