|Originally posted by thomas
Jude, i know there are many problems with hosting a large forum, and bandwidth costs are expensive. But i think what CMOY has done to build up this community is really admirable, and is one of the main reasons that it is so successful today. And many of my previous comments i made when i felt that people were not giving him the credit he rightly deserves...
I am just being naive and hoping that there would be someone out there who would continue devoting so much of their effort to promoting the hobby, without any intent of making money out of it.
And i get really mad when people take his work for granted, and critize him for somthing that is really out of his control...
I've done nothing but commend him on his efforts. I'm just kindly requesting the permission to import the archives here so that they're always available.
I don't expect anyone to choose sides. Heck, *I* still post on both. As dhwilkin stated, we have the means here to make the archives (pre-6/20/01) always available for access/searching, which is why I'm asking to be able to do that.
Chu and I (and you and I) have a difference of opinions on sponsors. I fully believe that it can be done without compromising the integrity of the forums (and at some point will likely become necessary). As I've said before, if he doesn't want to do that, I'm totally cool with it, and totally respect his position. I've offered help to Chu, and, like many of you, I offered donations as well. Our only difference (that I can see at this point) appears to be our position on sponsors.
And I'll say it again -- I'm not in this to make a living at all
. I already have a job. And I don't mind too much paying for this forum at the level it's at now (notice that there are no sponsors here). But I fully expect growth. And as we need, for example, another server, more storage, more bandwidth, and so more rackspace too, it will be too expensive for me to run out-of-pocket, and it won't stop there either if left to grow. Whether or not you like reading that, it is
almost unavoidable at some point.
As rick said in his message, we should thank Chu for his efforts -- I've said this many times before myself. And I want both forums to continue -- didn't anyone else notice that the purely duplicate posts across both forums were starting to decrease significantly?
This place was started for one reason, and one reason only: I saw it as providing the best odds at permanence for the forums. I don't think it unreasonable to kindly ask for the permission to download archives into Head-Fi, especially given the fact that HeadWize has been experiencing some downtime from mods and bandwidth cost issues. Whether or not he grants that permission is fully up to him, but it is also my position that the threads here, at HeadWize, at Audio Asylum, and any other public forum, are largely the property of the community (if not legally, then at least in spirit). If he doesn't grant permission to import the archives, then that's what it is -- nothing more I can do about that. But it's also likely a good solution to the issue of archive overload after it's back up, as someone else stated earlier.