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post #61 of 153
8/31/05 at 11:29am
Holy crap. That surveillance pic is daunting. It reminds me of "The Day After" when the Earth just freaked out and flash-froze the globe.
post #62 of 153
8/31/05 at 11:36am
With so many reports in the past about money not getting to or only some of the money getting to those who need it I don't know where to donate.

Can anyone recommend a good organization to donate for Katrina victims? I want to be sure those who need the help get all of it and as soon as possible.

Thanks
post #63 of 153
8/31/05 at 11:43am
i would just donate to the Red Cross. they seem to be running at full tilt as it is, one of the biggest relief efforts they've ever done. i doubt any other independent agencies are equipped to help out right now, it's really chaotic as it is.
post #64 of 153
8/31/05 at 11:50am
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Originally Posted by braillediver
A question?

Are they going to re-build New Orleans in the same hole? If so aren’t we going to see the exact same thing Again in our lifetimes?

Camille was 30 or 40 years ago. If they rebuild in the same place it’ll all happen again- it’s only a matter of time? You’re living below water level for goodness sake- what do you expect to happen?
And the worst thing is, regretfully, that when the call to evacuate New Orleans came through these people stayed.

And yes, most likely, they will repair the damage (I hope sooner, for everyone's sake) and keep things the way they are.

*sigh*

History again - "Those who do not heed history..."
post #65 of 153
8/31/05 at 11:58am
Over 27% of the Netherlands is below sea level. They have been living, farming and continuously reclaiming land there for over 2000 years. Geographic adversity has never stopped man before and I doubt it will stop men now. Besides, if you want to think of disasters waiting to happen, think of the ring of fire and the numerous population centers in areas where major earthquakes have occured and will reoccur for the centuries to come!
post #66 of 153
8/31/05 at 12:31pm
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Over 27% of the Netherlands is below sea level. They have been living, farming and continuously reclaiming land there for over 2000 years.
Have there ever been any modern flooding disasters in the Netherlands? Are there annual hurricanes or frequent major earthquakes in the area? From a geographic location standpoint, New Orleans seems like a constant disaster waiting to happen. If they do rebuild, as costly as it would be, they should rebuild to Category 5 hurricane levels to minimize future disaster..
post #67 of 153
8/31/05 at 1:14pm
The key is to strengthen and increased the height of the seawall and levee. It will billions but it will protect the city from stormsurge.
post #68 of 153
8/31/05 at 1:30pm

Oh geez

They just announced that the Superdome is going to be evacuated in the next two days, with all refugees being sent to the Houston Astrodome.

..."The stadium’s schedule was cleared through December to make it available."

Until December. *deepest groan imaginable* If that means they figure they will need it for that long, with that many people...

*double deep groan*

(adds: ) They even say I-10 lay in ruins, the concrete shattered. I remember that stretch, from my old big rig days. This is big trouble - no way to get people, food or medicines in or out.

This is really turning uglier by the second.
post #69 of 153
8/31/05 at 1:42pm
I know they want "less" people in the area despite well meaning individuals going in to try and help - BUT - what can we do as concerned individuals (aside from sending in donations?)

I dont know if clothes will help. I have a two containers of assorted clothes sitting in Miami that I am willing to off-load without charge to the people who lost their homes and personal belongings.

Who do I have to contact?
post #70 of 153
8/31/05 at 2:01pm
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Originally Posted by purk
The key is to strengthen and increased the height of the seawall and levee. It will billions but it will protect the city from stormsurge.
The entire New Orleans area is slowly sinking, while at the same time sea levels are rising and the delta & marshlands which protect the city are being eroded away. It's a band-aid solution, and it's only a matter of time before history repeats itself. In the long run, New Orleans, like Venice, is doomed. We can either accept that now or pay for in the future with more lives and money.

The wise choice would be to relocate NO upstream a few miles on higher ground, call it New New Orleans or something like that. Move all the industry, commercial, and residential areas well above sea level where it's safe, and preserve the undamaged historic areas of Old New Orleans as a tourist attraction. Keep the bulk of the population & industry away from the kill zone. That's what New Orleans is, a kill zone.
post #71 of 153
8/31/05 at 2:10pm

Donations

I don't know that any donations are being accepted for clothing at this time. Looking at the Salvation Army site it looks like financial support and volunteers are what's needed most right now.
post #72 of 153
8/31/05 at 2:13pm
Ironically, the levees are a big part of the problem. The entire area is/was swamp but the regular flooding of the Mississippi River continuously deposited silt which slowly over time turned more and more swampland into dry (ish) land. The French built the first levees way back when to prevent the flooding but because of that there is no more silt being deposited ( until now ) in that area and like a beach, over time, the land under New Orleans has slowly been eroding away ( sinking ).
post #73 of 153
8/31/05 at 2:25pm
hmmm
post #74 of 153
8/31/05 at 2:28pm
I just received the above yahoo excerpts via e-mail as well and was considering posting it myself. We can't get into political discussions but that really says a lot doesn't it.
post #75 of 153
8/31/05 at 2:29pm
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Over 27% of the Netherlands is below sea level. They have been living, farming and continuously reclaiming land there for over 2000 years. Geographic adversity has never stopped man before and I doubt it will stop men now. Besides, if you want to think of disasters waiting to happen, think of the ring of fire and the numerous population centers in areas where major earthquakes have occured and will reoccur for the centuries to come!
I don’t want to go off topic, but just comment on that this is true indeed.

Personally, I live 2m under the see level. I could go for the first floor if the wave comes. The thing is, that if a dike here breaks, which is a very rare situation, we get hit with a flood without warning: Cars will be floating away, shops and houses filled rapidly. Actually, and it is not representative really for the Netherlands nowadays, it happened 6km from where I live last year. Fortunately, the level stayed at about 0.5m.

I hope the people of New Orleans will come out of this reasonably well and able to continue their lives as was.

EDIT: BTW. Areas around the large rivers, like the Rhine, do get flooded in the spring. Not every year, but regularly. Large agricultural areas are planned to work as buffers in the future to minimize dam-bursts. A highly controversial idea in a land which has been fighting rising water for a millennium.
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