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post #31 of 42
8/20/05 at 3:22pm
IMHO the PS-1’s kick the snot out of the RS-1’s.




Mitch
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post #32 of 42
8/20/05 at 3:52pm
With the right track (1812 overture for example) they will certainly vibrate the snot right out...
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post #33 of 42
8/20/05 at 3:56pm
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by akwok
He does not wish to use a CDP.

I highly suggest using the VDA-1 + VAC-1 DAC combo, regardless of what headphone you end up buying.
I'm doing a search, but just incase I miss something could someone briefly explain the differences between the VDA-1, Headroom Micro DAC, and the more expensive Mini DAC?
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post #34 of 42
8/20/05 at 5:34pm
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Originally Posted by Edwood
After hearing how badly the PS-1 clipped and distorted with certain dynamic songs, I'd stay away from those overpriced exported, reimported phones.

Upgrade your source, but if you spend over $1000 on a DAC, the MS-2's are going to be the bottleneck in your system.

So, yeah, don't rule out the used market. And be sure to listen to the RS-1's and PS-1's in person before making a final decision if you can.

-Ed
Which PS-1 at the meet had the distortions? I only listened to the PS-1 with balanced cable mod, which sounded fine to me. Did the other PS-1 have stock, unbalanced cable?

Anyways, Usagi, if you listen to lots of vocals and music with lots of midrange info (trumpet, guitar, etc), I would get the RS-1 over PS-1. PS is clearer and more neutral, but I do prefer the RS-1 midrange. One idea would be to get the RS-1, do the balanced cable mod, and use the $$ for a balanced amp..
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post #35 of 42
8/20/05 at 5:37pm
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Originally Posted by Usagi
I'm doing a search, but just incase I miss something could someone briefly explain the differences between the VDA-1, Headroom Micro DAC, and the more expensive Mini DAC?
Well.

Grandenigma did a review vs. the Benchmark DAC1 ($1000) and he preferred the VDA-1. There's also an EMU1212 vs. VDA-1 review by Asmo, and he found the VDA-1 to rock. It's a warm source, which I would prefer over something analytical/cold, while still retaining detail. But again, different strokes for different folks.

There aren't too many Micro DAC reviews, but I'm sure you can't go wrong with either.
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post #36 of 42
8/20/05 at 6:24pm
Thread Starter 
Hmm, I remember the 1212 being reported a pretty warm too.
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post #37 of 42
8/20/05 at 7:29pm
Thread Starter 
Which headphone has a more forward presentation?
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post #38 of 42
8/20/05 at 8:42pm
I have heard two different PS-1's. Both I have heard were brand new outta the box when I tested them. The second pair I now own. I have never had this clipping problem. Best to look into that.
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post #39 of 42
8/20/05 at 8:51pm
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Originally Posted by Zanth
I have heard two different PS-1's. Both I have heard were brand new outta the box when I tested them. The second pair I now own. I have never had this clipping problem. Best to look into that.
True enough Zanth, I have heard four other pairs as well as my own and none of them had a clipping problem. I think it's likely the pair with clipping might have had a defect...
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post #40 of 42
8/30/05 at 1:10pm
Edwood is of course free to clarify himself if he wants, but I'm pretty sure he is referring to my set of balanced PS-1s, and the other poster mentioning the damaged phone is referring to another pairs (apparently Ray's?)

And in talking to Edwood, it was a single song (a song that LFF states he uses to test ALL speakers/headphones and very few can handle adequately). It was this song, well actually it was my understanding that he was not impressed with how the PS-1 handled a single timpany (?) note in that song.

LFF agreed, but myself and a few others basically said "yeah it doesnt sound like the HD650" and wasnt a big deal.

So, again, I think we may be overstating things a bit here? but perhaps for $1400, some expect it to be absolutely perfect?

Check the SoCal meet impressions thread for more thoughts on balanced PS-1 and overall the pair of balanced reference + PS-1 was very well-regarded....

and for what it's worth, it's still my favorite phone and the one I reach for first


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post #41 of 42
8/30/05 at 2:56pm
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Originally Posted by brianknewbie

So, again, I think we may be overstating things a bit here? but perhaps for $1400, some expect it to be absolutely perfect?

Well considering a certain $4k phone is far from perfect, hoping a $1400 phone would be is of course short sighted. Not that Edwood was in fact hoping the PS-1's were going to be perfect.
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post #42 of 42
8/30/05 at 3:15pm
Hmm, just saw this thread. Personally, I'd definitely do RS-1 + PPX Slam. Man, unless you have a fantastically dynamic source, the Gilmore Lite + PS-1 would bore me out of my mind.

Best regards,

-Jason
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