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Fastest Optical Drive for EAC Ripping

post #1 of 16
8/18/05 at 1:14am
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Well, looks like my new Benq DW164016x Dual Layer DVD-/+RW has an average speed of 6.9x compared to my Lite-on DVD drive's 9.4x speed.

Seems that this enq like most DVD burners are not very good at digital audio extraction.

Any recommendations for the best, Fastest Optical Drive for EAC Ripping?

-Ed
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post #2 of 16
8/18/05 at 1:23am
Edward,

The fastest drive to my knowledge is the LG-4163B DVD-RW. It does *not* cache audio information, is capable of C2 error retrieval, and I have ripped up to 37x in secure mode! I own 2 of these drives and bought them specifically for EAC for use with archiving my music collection to FLAC.

If you get this drive, I guarantee you won't be disappointed. I've owned a number of LG drives and prior to that, Plextor SCSI drives. For EAC, there is none better. It's DVD burning abilities are also quite good.



Cheers,
Dennis
PS If you get this drive, PM me and I'll send you the settings for the drive.

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Originally Posted by Edwood
Well, looks like my new Benq DW164016x Dual Layer DVD-/+RW has an average speed of 6.9x compared to my Lite-on DVD drive's 9.4x speed.

Seems that this enq like most DVD burners are not very good at digital audio extraction.

Any recommendations for the best, Fastest Optical Drive for EAC Ripping?

-Ed
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post #3 of 16
8/18/05 at 1:25am
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I don't need to have another DVD burner. So recommendations for other types of optical drives is welcome as well.

-Ed
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post #4 of 16
8/18/05 at 2:01am
Plextors are pretty great, but I haven't seen any data about EAC secure mode rip times in reviews.
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post #5 of 16
8/18/05 at 3:00am
Another factor in choosing a drive is AccurateRip support, if you choose to use that.

I recently got an Asus CD-S520 which is an inexpensive CD-ROM drive (yes, they still make them!). NeilPeart recommended it and the price ($20 CDN!) is right. It's pretty fast, and very quiet. Unfortunately, I can't get it configured for AccurateRip. Every key disk I use comes up with a different offset.
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post #6 of 16
8/18/05 at 4:02am
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Originally Posted by OracleGuy
Another factor in choosing a drive is AccurateRip support, if you choose to use that.

I recently got an Asus CD-S520 which is an inexpensive CD-ROM drive (yes, they still make them!). NeilPeart recommended it and the price ($20 CDN!) is right. It's pretty fast, and very quiet. Unfortunately, I can't get it configured for AccurateRip. Every key disk I use comes up with a different offset.
What's your average speed? If you have the time, Rip a CD and check it out.

-Ed
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post #7 of 16
8/19/05 at 12:26pm
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Originally Posted by Edwood
What's your average speed? If you have the time, Rip a CD and check it out.

-Ed
Sorry, I'm on vacation right now so can't check right away. It was faster than my Plextor PX-708A though.

I find that secure ripping speed varies quite a bit depending on the disc.
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post #8 of 16
8/19/05 at 4:00pm
These newer LGs aren't too shabby it seems. Once I updated EAC and this chose to disable the "caching" option, my own GSA-4040B has been very fast for DAE in secure mode (it'll apparently manage up to 24X speed, plenty fast enough for me). AFAIK, the old SCSI Plextors are the drives to beat for DAE, with a PX-40TSi managing up to 40x in secure mode. If the newer LG burners manage to reach this (or even 32X) this is pretty good, particularly considering that optical drives *are* subject to wear and many PX-40TSis may have seen quite a bit of use over the years.
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post #9 of 16
8/19/05 at 5:21pm
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Originally Posted by sgrossklass
These newer LGs aren't too shabby it seems. Once I updated EAC and this chose to disable the "caching" option, my own GSA-4040B has been very fast for DAE in secure mode (it'll apparently manage up to 24X speed, plenty fast enough for me). AFAIK, the old SCSI Plextors are the drives to beat for DAE, with a PX-40TSi managing up to 40x in secure mode. If the newer LG burners manage to reach this (or even 32X) this is pretty good, particularly considering that optical drives *are* subject to wear and many PX-40TSis may have seen quite a bit of use over the years.
Yeah, I have a PX-40TSi, but it died a long time ago.
I remember that thing being so noisy when it spun up a disk.

-Ed
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post #10 of 16
8/19/05 at 5:44pm
The noise part certainly has improved since then. At 16X CD speed, the GSA-4040B is actually inaudible in my system. Still not too bad at 24X. I still have an old 48X LG CD-ROM - that's what I call a nice jet engine .
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post #11 of 16
8/19/05 at 5:55pm
I really should have looked into what drive to get when I was building my Audio PC. I ended up with a samsung that I paid $60 for, and it's noisy as heck. I also only get about 10x with EAC in secure mode.
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post #12 of 16
8/19/05 at 7:29pm
LiteOn SOHD-16P9S DVD-ROM
+ very high error correction capability
+ high rip speed
+ high scan to scan consistency
- very loud
- no c2 info with eac (although you might not want to use it even if it had one)

Faster than dvd-roms from AOpen, Asus, LG, Nec, Plextor, Philips, Samsung & Toshiba.
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post #13 of 16
8/20/05 at 11:51am
Another thing I'll mention is that the Asus drive managed to rip Coldplay X&Y even though it's copy protected. It took a long time, but it did the job. My Plextor basically gave up.
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post #14 of 16
8/20/05 at 3:39pm
I've enclosed some screenshots as a followup to my previous post:

EAC V0.95 Prebeta 4
LG GSA-4163B Firmware A105
Test CD: Duke Ellington - Three Suites (Columbia)

EAC Settings for this drive:
Secure Mode/C2 Error capable/Gap Detection Method A/Secure/Read Offset +667

---> Max Ripping Speed: 37.7x

Cheers,
Dennis
P.S. The cost of this drive? $56 CDN or $44.80 US.
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post #15 of 16
8/20/05 at 6:14pm
BTW, you can speed up ripping (at least the noisy part that involves reading from the CD) by enabling background compression. (EAC settings --> tools) On a multiprocessor or dual core rig or something with a P4 with HT support one may even want to try more than one instance. Of course sufficient free space on the harddrive is required.
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