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post #31 of 57
I think a lot of these "problems" can be easily avoided by putting together a FAQ of sorts for meets. Then, put the link in the beginning of every Meet thread. You could also send the link to everyone that has confirmed they will attend a Meet.

Also, it's not a bad idea to put a sign next to your equipment, if you want to make sure it's handled in a certain manner.

Otherwise, it's pretty unreasonable to expect everyone (especially newbies) how to handle equipment they aren't familiar with.
post #32 of 57
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Originally Posted by nanahachi
This is a rant, so be warned.

A true pet peeve, no, source of major frustration for me is the fact that people treat others' possessions with little regard/care.

I took very few pieces of gear to yesterday's So Cal meet (Part 1), and thus this is not stemming from how people treated my own equipment. Rather, it comes from repeated instances, with yesterday being a mere example.

Examples of mishandling:
*Headphones placed in a way that could/did damage the cups (esp. wooden bowls)
*Tube amps left without a load (i.e. a pair of headphones plugged in)
*CDs getting scratched due to being placed on tables, etc, rather than back in their cases/binders
*R10s not being treated as fragile, nearly irreplacable objects

I KNOW I am anal and extremely protective when it comes to gear. I treat others' belongings as if they were my own. I don't expect everyone to care for their own gear in the same way as I do. However, common courtesy would dictate that if one uses gear that belongs to someone else, that this person should be careful when using that gear. Sadly, this just does not occur.

I feel badly for anyone whose equipment is mistreated and now feel that perhaps notes need to be left next to certain items, instructing their potential users how to and NOT to handle them.

/rant


Yep, i know all about this... I had a real hard time with it my very first meet when i had cd3000's, and they would float around all over the room. Then i noticed HE90's and the casual owner (bozebuttons) didn't really seem concerned and people tended to treat them with respect...

Yet, after the last meet i did have an ever so slight scratch on my metal grados, and it was obviously not my doing, yet things happen, and everything has to get scratched now and then..

Then again, i do remember a certain story about a very pricey cd player having the paint clawd off of it by some one just throwing grados on them, won't name names but these things happen now and then, and i'd be pissed as hell if that was mine.
post #33 of 57
Hmmm....haven't had the opportunity to get to a meet yet, but this thread and common sense tell me two things:

For Equipment Users: Treat others' things with great care. This is expensive equipment and the owners take great pride in not only the functionality but the cosmetics of their gear. As jpelg said, come with a "I break it, I buy it" mentality and treat other's gear as if it were the only gear of that type in existence, because sometimes it is.

For Equipment Owners: Head Fi is by and large a considerate community. That said, realize that when large groups of people get together and move things around, swap components and use gear, there is the chance something will be damaged. Understand that what you would call "damage", others may call "wear and tear". This is the risk you take when you bring your gear. If you have specific instructions or requirments regarding your gear, it's your responsibility to communicate them. You should not expect your things to get damaged but if you bring gear you should realize it is a possibility.
post #34 of 57
Oh, yeah another tip.

Wash your hands after using the restroom and after eating. Or if your hands are grubby.





Oh, yeah. It's a good idea to do so before handling other people's gear at meets.

-Ed
post #35 of 57
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Originally Posted by Jahn
I think it was at the Fall NYC meet that I did the following tube amp "'Fo Pa" - After plugging in my SR200s into a Singlepower Amp, I had to crank it to get my listening volume to bear (I think the one I used had a low current drive or something). Then I left the amp forgetting to lower the volume! Someone must have gotten BLASTED by that amp when plugging in their Senns. Honest, I didn't intentionally try to destroy someone's ears!
Or worse, I remember at the orginal World of Headroom tour, somebody was plugging the phones they had into every amp they could find.
Well, eventually the person plugged into an amp next to the amp I was listening to, but he could not figure out which volume knob controlled it. I wasn't really paying attention at the time to him, but the guy decided to CRANK the knob the amp I was listening to since he couldn't find the one for his. I had to throw off the HD600s I had on. I had no words for this guy, just looked at him, he said sorry.
post #36 of 57
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Originally Posted by ServinginEcuador
1. People just walk up to a rig and swap around ICs, sources, etc., then leave it that way instead of putting things back the way it was when they approached the rig.
Also, to add, watch out for locking interconnects. If it doesn't pull out easily, just don't pull harder, take your time to look and see if it's a locking interconnect and unlock/twist to remove. Remember folks, some of those IC's cost more than all of your gear.


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2. People just take an item from one rig and move it to another, than simply leave it in the second rig. If you take something from one rig to try out in another return everything moved to its original place.
I usually will bring my gear over to other gear when I want to compare. But my gear is alot smaller than others. Also why I built a small PC to be able to bring it closer to other's larger amps and such.


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3. People who didn't know what they were doing walked up to some rather nice gear and simply played hit-and-miss connecting things until they found the right connectors and combo of connectors to get sound.
coughpeoplewithOmega2NotPluggedIntoProSocketcough.

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4. For WAY too much of the meet the big room was used as a social room without respect for those listening to cans. We all need to communicate in the same room as the gear, but full-on conversations need to be moved to a room where conversation won't interfere with listening.
Guilty as charged. I'm such a jabber jaw. Yes, I do talk more than I post.
Yeah, we will probably need hall monitors next big meet.

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5. Far too many people left cold drinks sitting around gear. While this presents only a small hazard from items shorting out, it does leave puddles that later get onto CDs, ICs, PCs, and anything else setdown on the table.
I present Exhibit A: Bad! Bad!



Not justifying this by any means, but it was really hot in that room. Most of us (especially me) were sweating nonstop.


-Ed
post #37 of 57
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Originally Posted by PsychoZX
Personally I would want a person like that at a meet. Seems to contradict the whole point of a meet.
I assume that you mean you "wouldn't" want someone like that at a meet. Why not? A bunch of people who have nice things elect not to bring them because they don't want to take the risk, either because of what they've seen or heard about at other meets, or because of what life has taught them about human nature. My example was purely hypothetical and I've not observed anything like this at the meets I've attended, but there is a lot of gear that makes it to meets that for one reason or another doesn't ever get set up (i.e., not enough space to set everything up, or a lot of duplication of gear, etc). I'd personally have no problem if someone were to bring an item that they didn't feel comfortable in sharing with me. It's their business, not mine. While I do agree with you that the spirit of the meets is to share and I personally enjoy doing this with my gear, everyone has their own limits.
post #38 of 57
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Originally Posted by Jahn
I think it was at the Fall NYC meet that I did the following tube amp "'Fo Pa"
Major faux pax! Sorry, dude... I just couldn't resist!
post #39 of 57
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, and I certainly have been guilty of it in the past, but we all need to make an effort to return things we borrow preferably to the owner, but at least to where we got them from. Especially when there are more than one of a particular thing, it can be very easy to mix up people's stuff. I spent a good 30 mins searching for all my UE stuff at this past meet because somebody had just picked them all up and moved them around. Since there were several people with UE products I had to get them all together before I could identify which things were mine.
post #40 of 57
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Originally Posted by Publius
I have had somebody specifically tell me that it is A-OK to unplug a headphone from a (particular model of) tube amp while it's on, so there may quite a bit of justified confusion there. But yeah, it's something that just ought to be known by most head-fiers.
Not according to my RKV manual. Of course that may not speak for all tube amps.
post #41 of 57
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Originally Posted by Wmcmanus
Major faux pax! Sorry, dude... I just couldn't resist!
Hehe! I used to read a ton of Xanth novels, and one of the puns I remember is a mountain pass created when a giant kicked out some rock when stubbing his toe on the mountain - in other words, a Giant Mistep. But they called the pass "Fo Pa" instead of Faux Pax hehe
post #42 of 57
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Originally Posted by archosman
Not according to my RKV manual. Of course that may not speak for all tube amps.
Always best to play it safe. It can't hurt a tube amp to leave headphones plugged in. At the least, a really crappy pair of ear buds just for keeping a load for the tube amp? Certainly no one will walk off with it?

Make sure it has "Coby" prominently labelled on the ear buds.

-Ed
post #43 of 57
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Originally Posted by Wmcmanus
I assume that you mean you "wouldn't" want someone like that at a meet. Why not? A bunch of people who have nice things elect not to bring them because they don't want to take the risk, either because of what they've seen or heard about at other meets, or because of what life has taught them about human nature.
Yeah I did mean wouldn't. Also I was refering to the second thing you mentioned about a person only allowing a certain people listen to their gear. I personally think that it would be best for someone who is like that to leave their best gear at home. Of course this is just my opinion. But then again i'm a person very open to sharing my possessions and I would prefer to take the risk of my gear getting damaged to let everyone who wants to hear it get a chance rather than being worried about it getting damaged by someone. Also I would tend to think that some of the things mentioned in this thread seem to be isolated incidents and for the most part people tend to be careful with another persons gear. Of course i've only been to one meet so I really can't say for sure.
post #44 of 57
last meet I went to someone yanked apart my SR-71 in the first fifteen minutes before I even realized it. Course our meets barely top ten people, so it's a bit more homey and people ask to use equipment and stuff.
post #45 of 57
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Originally Posted by Wmcmanus
I'd personally have no problem if someone were to bring an item that they didn't feel comfortable in sharing with me. It's their business, not mine.
I really wouldn't have a problem with that either. I just think it kind of contradicts the spirit of a meet.
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