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post #31 of 240
Apologies to all of our friends who are not Americans.
post #32 of 240
it sucks, it's lame, it's draining my wallet and dragging down the economy etc. etc. etc.

BUT!

it's not like this snuck up on us. plenty of geologists, economists and environmentalists have been singing the same "oil go bye-bye" song for years, and no one in power paid any attention. now we have an energy bill that gives billions of bucks to the oilers, does nothing to further alternative development, and people are still buying hummers.

it's all so depressingly short-sighted.

i'm selling my car in the next two months.
post #33 of 240
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Originally Posted by Mr.PD
I remember back in the 80's when US gas prices were just going over a dollar for the first time. The pumps were not set up to show the full price, like your signs. Some pumps had all the numbers, but the cut out wasn't big enough to show them all.
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Me too. The interesting thing is, a buck was worth a lot more then than it is now. I wonder how much gas was back then in today's dollars? I bet it was more back then
post #34 of 240
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Originally Posted by Nightfall
And PLEASE spare me any pointless comments about what gas costs in Europe. Thats completely meaningless (though I wish their prices were lower too). Countries there are not even remotely placed, geographically, as we are here. Most are as close as the next county in your state. Add in the fact that less than 50% of the population own cars or drive, and seldom need to, and you have your answer. There are outstanding mass transit options. Many businesses are within easy reach by bicycle, and thus, there are millions everywhere in Europe. Few people truly need to drive for work, or otherwise, and I envy them that.


JC
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On some days my mum, who’s a vet, drives more than 250 miles. How long do you go on an average day?

Also, the public transportation is MUCH better in fx Boulder/Denver, Co than were I live. The bus drive like every 20 minutes. In Denmark there’s two connections per hour and they are 10 minutes a-part, so it’s basically only one connection per hour.

Also, here’s a funny fact: If US cars was as efficient as European cars ALL import of oil from the OPEC countries could be cut!
post #35 of 240
I say drive them up even higher and higher. Until the middle class starts to feel the pinch of the higher gas prices, no one really cares. It's a sad fact, but apparently we need to actually have a mininature economic depression in order to spur innovation to get off of this archaic technology.

I don't think it actually will happen though. We seem to be investing a LOT of time, blood, and money into the oil production stability route. Which means we probably have something up our sleeve.

I can't help but wonder where we'd be if we spent all the money on oil (wars, production, investments, ect) on developing other technologies.
post #36 of 240
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Originally Posted by Tuberoller
I'm not trying to be funny here in the least bit,but did'nt any of your financial advisors or brokers direct you guys to purchase oil company stock? Yeah,fuel prices are very high but the stock gains way,way,way more than make up for it. That eases the pain quite a bit.
Yeah but a thread complaining about high gas prices isn't really FOR your type mr roller. The gas prices don't affect you in the least. Getting your money back because you can afford an investment advisor to tell you how to manage your wealth, it must be nice but it's just a luxury like all your other luxuries. A bragging point if you will.

When you start rolling your spare change in your house to pay for a couple gallons of gas to get to work, then you'll be feeling it.

EDIT: Don't look at this as me being jealous of someone who's rich. It's just a pet peeve when the rich don't really understand what "broke" really is. A friend of mine who has plenty in the bank has done this a couple times. His wallet is empty so he declares himself "broke". I set him straight real fast.
post #37 of 240
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Originally Posted by TWIFOSP
I can't help but wonder where we'd be if we spent all the money on oil (wars, production, investments, ect) on developing other technologies.
Some place a lot better off than where we are right now, that's for sure.
post #38 of 240
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Originally Posted by NightWoundsTime
Yeah but a thread complaining about high gas prices isn't really FOR your type mr roller. The gas prices don't affect you in the least. Getting your money back because you can afford an investment advisor to tell you how to manage your wealth, it must be nice but it's just a luxury like all your other luxuries. A bragging point if you will.

When you start rolling your spare change in your house to pay for a couple gallons of gas to get to work, then you'll be feeling it.

Well said. My wife and I are both health care professionals, bust our ass to raise a family, and yeah, we're scraping because everything now is so damn expensive, including the gasoline to commute to work (no public transportation here). In fact, we cancelled a trip we were going to take to NY this fall soley due to the price of gas. I'm so glad oil companies are making such nice profits. This country really needs to rethink it's priorities.
post #39 of 240
thank god my dad got me a civic and not the v8 camaro i wanted lol. i only drive 300-350 every 10 days or so, gas isnt killing me. i still think i'd freak out if i paid over $30 for a tank, average price is $25 for 12 gallons lately.
post #40 of 240
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Originally Posted by AlanY
The US tax break for fuel-efficient hybrids is being phased out while the tax break for Hummers is being kept.
I'm sorry, but did you just say that there is a tax break for Hummers? Is it limited to Hummers, or just SUVs in general? Regardless, that is flippin' ridiculous.
post #41 of 240
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Originally Posted by Imyourzero
I'm sorry, but did you just say that there is a tax break for Hummers? Is it limited to Hummers, or just SUVs in general? Regardless, that is flippin' ridiculous.
There is a whopping $38,000 tax deduction for Hummers:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/...hummer17.shtml
post #42 of 240
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Originally Posted by slick
thank god my dad got me a civic and not the v8 camaro i wanted lol. i only drive 300-350 every 10 days or so, gas isnt killing me. i still think i'd freak out if i paid over $30 for a tank, average price is $25 for 12 gallons lately.
Heh, it costs around $36 to fill my GT up now. Granted, that is 93 octane, but I have to use it. I despise paying it too (except when I pull up next to an obnoxious Civic driver, then it's all worth it).
post #43 of 240
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Originally Posted by AlanY
There is a whopping $38,000 tax deduction for Hummers:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/...hummer17.shtml
Wow, I didn't know about that one. Sickening, really. An OBGYN at my hospital drives a maroon H2 and his license plate says "WORK4GAS". Yeah, right. As if he didn't make more than enough money already, he could always use that $38k tax break to pay for his gas...

He also has an S2000; I guess he bought that to balance his fuel usage out a bit.
post #44 of 240
Yeah, the Hummer tax break is a great symbol of how the government has done much to bring the current situation on by failing to implement sensible policies. Just implementing reasonable fuel efficiency standards for SUVs could have made a big difference in reducing the demand side of the equation, but no one has the balls to even suggest it. Instead, they're attempting magic quick fixes like changing Daylight Savings Time. We'll never get to the root of the problem that way.
post #45 of 240
Actually, if one gets a smaller car that delivers 30MPG, instead of an SUV that delivers 15MPG, then obviously the cost of fuel is cut in half. Isn't it amazing that we see virtually no car advertisements announcing increased gas mileage, and virtually no discussion on the news regaring the subject of improved or improving gas milage. Seems that were US car makers to market a plug-in type of hybrid; i.e., one that would allow the first 20 miles to be battery powered, and the next 20 miles to be 50/50 battery/gasoline powered, such cars would get the equivalent of >100MPG for those driving <40 miles per day. But, we keep hearing about hydrogen powered cars, which are still way way in the future, because of hydrogen distribution problems, etc. IMO talk of hydrogen powered cars is just a way to keep us off the politician's backs.

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