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amping without line-out

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
is there a huge difference between using line-out or not? would it be worth it to amp a DAP or something without a line-out?
post #2 of 11
Line out out of? I'm guessing iPod since that's the most popular option.

The answer short and simple is: Yes.

I've been playing with my new amp and can honestly say that I would not be impressed much if I ran my go-vibe through just the headphone out. The difference to me is so small that it would not be worth justifying buying an amp. Spend the few extra dollars to get the line-out cable.
post #3 of 11
Ipod's headphone out has the bass-roll off. The line out doesn't. If you want to recover the bass, you're best off with the line out.
post #4 of 11
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Originally Posted by Teerawit
Ipod's headphone out has the bass-roll off. The line out doesn't. If you want to recover the bass, you're best off with the line out.
So, it's an ipod-only problem? Takt mentions that if one wants line-out, one has to get an ipod, yet the problem with headphone jacks is created by ipods in the first place?
post #5 of 11
I amp my Karma from the headphow out and i think it sounds fine. It's not the best idea, but if you've got nothing else, then do it. i dont do any critical listening from my DAP anyway. They're mp3's they dont sound all that great to begin with.

I say go for it. If you dont like it, then buy an adaptor....

B
post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by Sinbios
So, it's an ipod-only problem? Takt mentions that if one wants line-out, one has to get an ipod, yet the problem with headphone jacks is created by ipods in the first place?
There are plenty of DAPs that have line out.

I'm just saying that the ipod's line out is noticeably better than the ipod's headphone out, in part because the line out doesn't suffer from the bass rolloff that the headphone out ON THE IPOD does.
post #7 of 11
It's always better to line out so as to bypass a portable's internal amplification stage (which is a source of distortion).

This may help from a range of very, very slightly to quite considerably - dpending on what you are lining to (how distorted it is compared to the source, with headphone out).
post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by ilikemonkeys
I amp my Karma from the headphow out and i think it sounds fine. It's not the best idea, but if you've got nothing else, then do it. i dont do any critical listening from my DAP anyway. They're mp3's they dont sound all that great to begin with.

I say go for it. If you dont like it, then buy an adaptor....

B
You can get an line-out adaptor? AFAIK, you have to soldering the jack to bypass the amp circuit for a player that doesn't have a line-out jack...
post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by South_Korean
...would it be worth it to amp a DAP or something without a line-out?
Putting aside the question of how much better the sound quality might be if a line-out were amped, the answer to your question is YES, it IS worth it (in improved enjoyment of the sound) to amp the audio from a portable device without a line-out. An amp as modest as a well-made (not maxxed out) cmoy or go-vibe can provide a substantially more enjoyable sound from a modest audio source.
The decision of whether it is worth it to YOU to carry around the amp, batteries, interconnect between amp and DAP for the enjoyment difference is one that only you can make. I've lent out a cmoy and a go-vibe to co-workers listening to mp3s from their work-issue computer headphone-out (with nothing more than a SoundMax chip on the motherboard behind it), and they've enjoyed their music using the amp substantially more. One of my co-workers bought the amp from me so he'd never have to be without it. The amp cannot restore quality to the signal that has already been lost upstream, but it can definitely make the quality that remains more enjoyable and accessible. Even "when the world is a-comin' down" you can "make the best of what's still around".
post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 
so i can use it with my computer too. thats cool. i was thinking more about the Zen micro though, not an ipod. i already knew that you could get a sik din thingy to get a line-out and amp it from there but i wanted knwo about other players as well.
post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by sbulack
Putting aside the question of how much better the sound quality might be if a line-out were amped, the answer to your question is YES, it IS worth it (in improved enjoyment of the sound)
I've read the same thing from a reliable builder....
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