Drew of Shellbrooksaudio - Page 7  

Nate, as long as Drew still has his money, I think he has every right to do so, Drew could have resolved this issue long time ago

This is very simple. If the seller does not want negative feedback or anything derogatory placed within a signature then he/she should not make any negative transactions. Judging by the posts here and on other threads, Drew has wronged many customers. A backlash is to be expected in various ways.

By the way n_maher, why are you defending the wrongdoer? Are you a member of the AC*U?

that is inappropriate and ignorant.

I think if you actually read my posts you'll see that I'm in no way defending Drew. Show me where I have and I'll edit it out. I'm doing what I would do for any person that I thought was being unfairly treated. I think the sig is out of line, nuff said as I don't want this thread locked as it serves a purpose for those who are trying to get their issues with Shellbrook resolved.

Honestly, I simpathize with the individuals situation. And as I've said whether or not the sig is legit is nothing for me to decide. I just think that a message of this type is better and more fairly conveyed in the specified forum. That's it.

Nate

well, I take it that you are trying to insult me, heres the deal. If someone was trying to contact me about not recieving an item or refund, I would 1. Send a replacement the next day OR 2. refund the same day. nuff said

Of course the sig has no reference to the performance of my products so I do not think it has relevence. If Iban paid me $500 for a cable and i held on to the money and stopped communication with Iban. I wouldnt blame him. Heck I don't know what I would say if it took me 5 months to build a $500 mini cable , Id probably quote his sig about my long wait in my own sig for fun.

of course I would appreciate it if Iban would give me time to help accomodate me to work out any issues, though I would think a month would be more then enough for me to help him, but I wouldnt even think of requiring half a year to send out a cable.



n_maher, if you didnt like the sound of my cable and disliked it enough to say it sounds bad, id just give youa refund. Though I dont think Ibans sig is saying that the amps sound bad.

Iban, if you ever by a cable and I take 4-5 months to send it to you, you have my full permission to make a sig about me and your wait time.

</sarcasm>

really n_maher, I dont think your analogy had any relevance to me.

Anyone who cares to do a search on drewd or Shellbrook Audio will very quickly see that you're right there to defend him, each and every time this same pattern recurs.

What, exactly, your connection is to Drew and Shellbrook Audio, I'm not sure, but your opinion on the matter is anything but objective, Nate.

I certainly am. By the way, the missing letter is L -- it stands for Liberties. I can understand today why it can be hard to remember.



If a merchant upsets customers, they're can and even should let others know -- the same goes for a merchant who pleases its customers. This is how reputations are earned. The more we know about how people do business, the smarter decisions we can make. Sometimes posting a negative feedback doesn't seem effective enough for someone who seems to have losts hundreds of dollars.

iirc, the review writer had a post count of 1 or 2 and didnt post again that I know of. Then followed by a link on the shellbrook site that directed to the review the moment it was posted. So of course people made assumptions in the thread, That didnt interest me, nor does this one, I just thought you should post ALL the facts before making a comment like that.

anyhow, Im out of this since it isnt my fight, all I did state my opinion that i felt Iban wasnt in the wrong..

anyhow n_maher, I dont see how you wanted to take it to a personal level, I didnt, see ya.

I will refrain from posting in this thread.

n_maher: "That simply is not what a sig is for."

Umm, what exactly is a sig for?

I've seen quite a few very creative uses of the space and am wondering about your thoughts on others and whether or not they meet your criteria.

Perhaps it might be best to let the moderators make those sorts of decisions.


Edit -

Iban, from what I've seen sometimes publicity as pressure works with this manufacturer and so I can understand your sig.

I was considering buying an amp from this manufactuer but after this latest thread I think that I'll look elsewhere. I was going to give this manufactuer the benefit of the doubt as some people have asked potential customers to do, but after reading n_maher's take I guess that doing so would be a "stupid choice" and thus I'd deserve to "suffer the consquences." I appreciate your raising these issues.

I know I shouldn't say this 'cause you're a moderator, but OMFG! WTF??? I repeat... WTF???
To think, I had respect for your moderating skills... clearly that respect was misguided.
If you search as you said, Nate has NO connection to Drew other than the Millett Group Buy. I know Nate, and can speak to this as fact... not opinion, not something up for discussion, but a plain, simple FACT. I know he's gotten nothing but grief for trying to give back to the HeadFi community with the Millett Group Buy and has been frustrated by the response he's received from the powers that be for it. I also know for a fact that the Group Buy cost hundreds in the long run, not to mention the countless hours he put into it and has gotten nothing but grief for it. Hell, the only reason the Millett forum was created was because Rick, the DIY moderator (and quite the "people person", I must say) would thread-crap Millett related posts at every turn, not to mention accusing Nate at being unethical, cheap and any number of things. My understanding is this has all this has been told to Jude, and if he's not going to reel people like you in from spouting off conjecture, he's lost my respect for an otherwise great site. Also, if you search (again, as you suggested), you'll see that Nate doesn't come to Drew's defense as much as get frustrated with the bandwagon effect here @ HeadFi. Read his damn posts for crying out loud... Hell, his first post in this thread will do:

(bold added by me for emphasis)
So, because he has the means to get in touch with Drew as a result of the Group Buy and goes out of his way to make Drew aware of the situation, and because he personally disagrees with someone's use of the signature feature on the forum, that means he's coming to Drew's defense.
PLEASE!

:shakesheadindisgustatwhatheadfihasbecome:

If this turns into my ticket out of here, then so be it. This has been a long time coming.

edit: I don't know Drew, and to be honest, couldn't care less about most of the stuff that goes on in this thread. But Nate's a good guy who goes out of his way to be a good guy, and I'm sick of the crap he continues to put up with.

It amazes me how threads can quickly change. It also amazes me how people can change as well. They start out relatively helpful and quickly degenerate into something else. Hopefully, the author of this thread has been in contact with his amp builder, as well as any others who have been waiting for product/contact. At this point, I see no reason for this thread to continue.