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post #16 of 184
7/23/05 at 11:30pm
A typical MarkL review: well written, good reading, and worthwhile. Great job Mark! Makes me want to try a pair for myself. I'm always looking for something cheaper that allows me to sell off my more expensive stuff and pocket the difference. Sounds like these ICs are real winners, and this just reinforces that reputation.
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post #17 of 184
7/24/05 at 12:19am
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Originally Posted by sbulack
To allay anyone's fears that a mid-fi system will not sound good with the UR IC, both my computer audio and offline rigs have never sounded as AMAZING as they sound with the Grover UR IC. If you look at the modest components in my rigs, they are solid performers, but most definitely NOT high-end audio. I HAVE found that the UR brings out layers of subtlety in my recordings that I now hear easily that I either did not hear before the UR or had to listen with substantial effort to hear. At the same time, I have NOT found that the UR narrows the range of recordings that I enjoy. So, for me and my rigs, the UR has significantly increased the depth and subtlety of the sound that I am getting in ways that my ears greatly enjoy, without narrowing the selection of recordings in my collection that I enjoy listening to. The UR has been all upside for me.
Assuming your message was prompted by my comment, thanks for the reassurance that it would not make my rig sound worse. I was beginning to worry that those ICs would bring out the underlying crapola of my system that I was totally unaware.

I have enough weak links that I would care not to expose . . .
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post #18 of 184
7/24/05 at 1:00am
I can't wait to order a pair! Thanks for the great review!

How long did it take you to receive a pair upon ordering? I want to time it so that I receive them when I get my SCD-555ES back from sacdmods (hopfully I send it out monday for the mods).
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post #19 of 184
7/24/05 at 2:00am
Excellent review, Mark (as always). I'm going to order a pair myself... well, actually two (one balanced, and one single ended).
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post #20 of 184
7/24/05 at 1:10pm
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone for the encouraging words.

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How long did it take you to receive a pair upon ordering? I want to time it so that I receive them when I get my SCD-555ES back from sacdmods (hopfully I send it out monday for the mods).
Not sure what Grover's lead-time is these days, need to ask him directly. psychogentoo, the Grovers are really going to let you hear everything the 555ES Hot Rod has to offer. You'll really be able to hear what you paid for with those mods. Should be a killer system you'll have there. Cheers.
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post #21 of 184
7/24/05 at 6:09pm
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Originally Posted by markl
Not sure what Grover's lead-time is these days, need to ask him directly.
Not explicit but here's part of a message that Grover sent me today . . .

"Turn around is fairly quick on RCA IC's. Best Regards, Grover"
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post #22 of 184
7/26/05 at 2:24pm
Just received package with my Grover UR-2 cables, looks just like UR cables except label with Grovers name is now black with silver lettering..........it will take me a bit longer than normal to report findings since I have Bel Canto Dac being modded by RAM which will complicate things a bit.

Will get photos up tomorrow.
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post #23 of 184
7/26/05 at 11:36pm
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Will get photos up tomorrow.

Fantastic. Just ordered mine today. Can't wait to test these IC out based on the reviews . . .

I hope my expectations are not too high . . . . . . .
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post #24 of 184
7/27/05 at 12:23am
Hmmm, I'm confused. Recently sent my SR into Grover for the UR upgrade and now there's a UR ver 2?? Mine have the black band with the name in silver but no directional arrow.

Do I have the ver 1 or 2? How do I determine direction? Sheese, haven't had the new cables for any length of time at all and already there's a newer version out. Aaarrgghh!
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post #25 of 184
7/27/05 at 8:11am
KenW,

I'm not sure about your question but I did ask Grover whether any new versions past the UR-2s were on the horizon before buying and he indicated no.

Not much help for you (unless you decide to upgrade again) but it gives the owners of the UR-2s peace of mind . . . . . at least for a little while . . .
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post #26 of 184
7/27/05 at 8:25am
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Originally Posted by MonkeyButt
KenW,

I'm not sure about your question but I did ask Grover whether any new versions past the UR-2s were on the horizon before buying and he indicated no.

Not much help for you (unless you decide to upgrade again) but it gives the owners of the UR-2s peace of mind . . . . . at least for a little while . . .
Funny in that he never mentioned a newer version when he had my SR cable a few weeks ago. Can't imagine such an upgrade from all silver to a hybrid would or could take place so quickly. Put in an email to him last night but still no word on where I stand. Guess my big concern is not knowing if the cables I have are directional or not. If they are, that would be a nice detail to know along with which way is which.

Anyway, thanks for the info. Guess the only person who can answer is Grover. I'm betting I've got ver 1 as I doubt he'd make the mistake of leaving off directionality indications. Upgrades are part of the journey I suppose but there's no way I'm going to try and keep pace.
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post #27 of 184
7/27/05 at 8:33am
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Originally Posted by KenW
Hmmm, I'm confused. Recently sent my SR into Grover for the UR upgrade and now there's a UR ver 2?? Mine have the black band with the name in silver but no directional arrow.

Do I have the ver 1 or 2? How do I determine direction? Sheese, haven't had the new cables for any length of time at all and already there's a newer version out. Aaarrgghh!
Wait Ken is right.......new UR-2 with black label just received does not have direction arrow, I stand corrected.

Grover UR-1 cable with white label did have direction arrow under Grovers name, but previous Grover cables did not. I suspect arrow is just reminder when removing cable to re-install same direction. On previous Grover SR cables I made tag to mark which way I installed cable so when removing I could keep same direction as broken in.

Monkey
Please correct my quote in your post and remove term "direction arrow" from quote
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post #28 of 184
7/27/05 at 10:47am
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Just received package with my Grover UR-2 cables, looks just like UR cables except label with Grovers name is now black with silver lettering..........it will take me a bit longer than normal to report findings since I have Bel Canto Dac being modded by RAM which will complicate things a bit.

Will get photos up tomorrow.
Newest version Grover UR-2 Cables






For Reference old Grover UR-1 Cables

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post #29 of 184
7/27/05 at 1:24pm
DarkAngel -

Thanks for the pics.

I think the pics answer my question about which version I have. My current URs are just as pictured, and the ones they replaced were the ones with the white heatshrink and direction arrows.

Hopefully there will be no further revisions for a while so that those of us with the current version can enjoy them, and others can upgrade to the current version if they choose to do so.
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post #30 of 184
7/27/05 at 2:00pm
Just a question, with the upgrades, what was revised in the newest version?
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