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post #1 of 74
7/13/05 at 8:01am
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I'm starting to think of going with Chaintech AV-710--->DAC--->HA-1 Mk II. Only problem is that I can't find good DACs produced in and shipping from Europe. I don't want to pay import duties...

Any suggestion?
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post #2 of 74
7/13/05 at 8:17am
The "shipping from Europe" part is easy, but what do you mean by "produced in Europe"?
I mean, whereever a modern DAC is assembled the parts are originated all over the planet anyway.
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post #3 of 74
7/13/05 at 8:21am
I'm in the market for a good quality DAC for my component system. I prefer to buy used or demo equipment (to escape sticker-shock) and my budget is about €300-400.00. I've heard wildly different things about Audio Note DACs. Does anyone here have a good word for them?
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post #4 of 74
7/13/05 at 8:23am
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Originally Posted by gorman
I'm starting to think of going with Chaintech AV-710--->DAC--->HA-1 Mk II. Only problem is that I can't find good DACs produced in and shipping from Europe. I don't want to pay import duties...

Any suggestion?
I'm also makeing that setup. I have av-710 and amp and now searching for DAC. But I can get it from US too, we have company that ships goods to our country from US. Probably you have similar company in your region too.
anyway my thread is http://www4.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=127637 Maybe there you can find some info later.
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post #5 of 74
7/13/05 at 9:16am
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Originally Posted by cosmopragma
The "shipping from Europe" part is easy, but what do you mean by "produced in Europe"?
I mean, whereever a modern DAC is assembled the parts are originated all over the planet anyway.
Ok, I'm interested in:

a) Shipping from Europe to avoid long delays and duty fees.

b) Produced in Europe because if somebody is just importing them... well... they would be charging me for "a" just the same.

In any case I'm interested in hearing solutions part of the "a" category, even if they don't fulfill the "b" requirement.
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post #6 of 74
7/13/05 at 9:30am
AQVOX USB 2 D/A .
German engineering, assembled in China, sold by a german company partly owned by the engineer.
Very nice DAC, I like it way better than the "famous" Benchmark DAC1 I also own.
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post #7 of 74
7/13/05 at 9:48am
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Originally Posted by gorman
Ok, I'm interested in:

a) Shipping from Europe to avoid long delays and duty fees.

b) Produced in Europe because if somebody is just importing them... well... they would be charging me for "a" just the same.

In any case I'm interested in hearing solutions part of the "a" category, even if they don't fulfill the "b" requirement.
???

Have you already looked at North Star's (http://www.northstar.it/products.html) North Star 192 DAC?


jiitee
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post #8 of 74
7/13/05 at 2:30pm
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Keep them coming people. I'd like to stay in the 300 Euros range...
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post #9 of 74
7/13/05 at 3:19pm
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Originally Posted by gorman
Keep them coming people. I'd like to stay in the 300 Euros range...
Not that easy. I can only think of the Behringer SRC2496 in that range, actually it's quite a bit cheaper (under 150 here - whoops, must have become a good deal cheaper in the last months). Supposedly it sounds fairly good, even though Behringer's QC has a reputation for not being all too great.
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post #10 of 74
7/13/05 at 4:52pm
Filterless/nonoversampling dac. Ships to europe from Taiwan:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...Name=WDVW&rd=1

(I just ordered the tube version, but I don't have any experience with it as I haven't got it yet.)

-Dan
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post #11 of 74
7/13/05 at 5:29pm
Don't mean to hijack the thread, but just noticed that dwc you have a JVC RX-D202 receiver. Would like to hear your opinion of it's sound quality, especially when used with the digital in and USB in. Thanks!
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post #12 of 74
7/13/05 at 6:18pm
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Originally Posted by dwc
Filterless/nonoversampling dac. Ships to europe from Taiwan:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...Name=WDVW&rd=1
High-quality components, looks nice - but a NOS filterless DAC? The strong ultrasonic components of the resulting signal may generate IM distortion inside the amp and aren't likely be very tweeter friendly. That concept is simply broken by design.
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post #13 of 74
7/13/05 at 6:59pm
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Originally Posted by jiiteepee
???

Have you already looked at North Star's (http://www.northstar.it/products.html) North Star 192 DAC?


jiitee
There's a rave review about the older Northstar DAC Model 3 on TNT audio:

http://www.tnt-audio.com/sorgenti/model3_e.html

I'm not huge on external looks but I'm very big on value, and I'm not afraid of older equipment that has been well -treated. The North Star DACS look very intriguing. It would be great to find somebody in Europe trying to pass on a used model. I believe Northstar's new 192 DAC goes for around 1100.00 Euro.
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post #14 of 74
7/14/05 at 3:25am

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Hi Gorman,

We seem to be going the same route, I'm just starting to look for a DAC with virtualy the same requirements as yourself. Just finished my jukebox PC using an 0404 and a seperate DAC is my next upgrade.

Let me know how you get on with whatever you purchase.

Cheers

John
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post #15 of 74
7/14/05 at 4:13am
What about the new HK HD-970? Granted, it's not a European product and not only a pure dac, but it might be worth a try anyway...

Greetings from Hannover!

Manfred / lini
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