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Audio Note Silver Foil Oil Coupling Capacitor

post #1 of 25
7/2/05 at 3:11am
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What is it, how does it improve over, say, Jensen coupling caps, and what justifies its extreme expense?

I'm trying to decide if it'd be a worthy upgrade of a Supra
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post #2 of 25
7/2/05 at 3:21am
If your equipment is what you have in your profile/signature, there are better uses for your money.
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post #3 of 25
7/2/05 at 4:02am
The general sentiment online that I've gathered is that Jensen caps are good, but not as good as Mundorf or Audio Note. Of course, Jensen actually provides lots of info on their caps and Audio Note provides nothing too specific. I'd normally just say get a pair of each and compare them, but in this case it would be a considerable expenditure. Then again, I suppose you could always sell them if you didn't like them.
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post #4 of 25
7/2/05 at 10:54am
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Originally Posted by dsavitsk
If your equipment is what you have in your profile/signature, there are better uses for your money.
Yes, my equipment is what's in my sig. No, that's not what i'm going to have forever. I'm interested because i'm considering the Supra as part of a much more expensive home-rig that i plan to invest on later this year, and want to get as much as possible right the first time over.

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Originally Posted by JWFokker
I'd normally just say get a pair of each and compare them, but in this case it would be a considerable expenditure. Then again, I suppose you could always sell them if you didn't like them.
That's the thing, with Singlepower being in america and me being here, i'd have to have the thing shipped back to get them replaced if i didn't like em.
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post #5 of 25
7/2/05 at 11:59pm
Hi,

Silver Foil is supposed to make the sound brighter as opposed to normal oil-in-paper capacitors according to some reading. But if you want some serious encouragement, tried this site.

http://www.tnt-audio.com/accessories...otecaps_e.html

This man did a lot of DIYing to back it up.

Me? I am poor so I satisfy myself with Vitamin Qs. (Supposedly there are Silver Foil Vitamin Q's in the Japanese DIY Community ... Which is not confirmed. I am not high enough in the hierarchy or something.)

Tomo
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post #6 of 25
7/3/05 at 7:50am
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Originally Posted by Tomo
Hi,

Silver Foil is supposed to make the sound brighter as opposed to normal oil-in-paper capacitors according to some reading. But if you want some serious encouragement, tried this site.

http://www.tnt-audio.com/accessories...otecaps_e.html
Thank you for that link, it seems hard to find any information/oppinions on these, as they're apparently quite scarce (probably due to the cost). I'll have to do some thinking as to whether or not these'll be worthwhile.
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post #7 of 25
7/3/05 at 9:36am
Hi,

Don't worry. Older member got lots of links like this. You just gotta ask like I did. No biggie there.

T
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post #8 of 25
7/3/05 at 10:34am
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Originally Posted by Tomo
Hi,

Don't worry. Older member got lots of links like this. You just gotta ask like I did. No biggie there.

T
Its just a pity the silver foil's themselves weren't reviewed, though just knowing the copper foils are that good is indicative of their worth.

Still, i have to wonder if the expense is truly justified, or if Jensen/Jupiter PIO's would suffice instead.
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post #9 of 25
7/3/05 at 8:04pm
After playing around with a bunch of different interconnects and Sennheiser cables over the past few months and being amazed at the major effect cabling has the sound of my headphone rig, I think I would save the cost of the high-buck capacitors and instead apply that money towards good cabling.
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post #10 of 25
7/4/05 at 8:43am
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Originally Posted by KZEE
After playing around with a bunch of different interconnects and Sennheiser cables over the past few months and being amazed at the major effect cabling has the sound of my headphone rig, I think I would save the cost of the high-buck capacitors and instead apply that money towards good cabling.
The thing is, good IC's can always be swapped around at a later date. I DON'T want to be shipping my amp to and from america every time i want a cap changed
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post #11 of 25
7/4/05 at 12:41pm
Hi,

I think I read something over the net a while ago by peter qvotrup (audio note), he said the silver caps are actually mylar and not oil...........

Thanks
Raja
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post #12 of 25
7/4/05 at 3:18pm
Holy crap those things are expensive! I checked the audionote website and they are indeed silver foil and mylar caps, no oil in them. At the price they're going for, I'd probably go for the V-Cap teflon & foil capacitors instead, which seem to be regarded as the best caps around. Never heard'em though...
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post #13 of 25
7/4/05 at 6:17pm
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Originally Posted by aerius
Holy crap those things are expensive! I checked the audionote website and they are indeed silver foil and mylar caps, no oil in them. At the price they're going for, I'd probably go for the V-Cap teflon & foil capacitors instead, which seem to be regarded as the best caps around. Never heard'em though...
So those are V-Caps, eh? Strangely enough Mikhail mentioned these when i was asking him about my choices in the PIO section. I asked about the relative merit of the Jupiter PIO's over the Jensen's:

"As for the Jupiter capacitors, you'll get more warmth with these. For a cleaner
sound, the V-Cap capacitors would give you a cleaner sound, but the Jupiters
will not deter for the overall sound."

Now i'm wondering... to Audio Note, or to V-Cap?
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post #14 of 25
7/4/05 at 6:55pm
Considering that teflon is a better dielectric, I'd go with the V-Caps.
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post #15 of 25
7/4/05 at 10:43pm
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Originally Posted by JWFokker
Considering that teflon is a better dielectric, I'd go with the V-Caps.
Unfortunately, V-Cap Teflons are not exactly cheap Fortunately, V-Cap oil caps are less pricy and have gotten some nice feedback from DIY'ers.

My previous favorite cap was Relcap Teflons, but it did cost me an arm and I'd like to keep at least one arm intact..
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