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post #91 of 150
Ordered Solti on Rheingold tonight, got a good coupon in my email from BMG (50% and Free shipping), I figured $16.99 shipped was a good bargain.
post #92 of 150
OK, you guys finally tempted me to throw in my 2 cents:

Tristan: Nothing compares with the Furtwangler/Suthaus/Flagstad for expressive power. It is OK 50's mono sound.
The Solti has good production values, but Tristan is much too wimpy!
Vickers' Tristan is OK, but not as strong as Suthaus, IMO.

Ring: The sonics and power of the Solti can't be beat! Stolze is absolutely perfect as Loge/Mime--no one else sound remotely right after him.
That said, the Furtwangler Ring is also wonderful given the old sound. The Bohm is worth hearing too--nice sound on vinyl.

I haven't seen the Boulez DVD yet, looking forward to it. I thoroughly enjoyed the Levine/Met--I didn't notice the slowness of Rheingold that y'all are complaining about.

Parsifal: has been very well served in recordings, I think. The DG/Barenboim is nice. Ditto the Karajan/Vickers. Both Bayreuth/Knapp..sch are fine.
Domingo made a pretty good Parsifal, so I'm looking forward to his Tristan.
post #93 of 150
Solti Rheingold is in the House, imported into itunes and stored losslessly on my Rio Karma...I'm ready to dig in...wish me luck!

PS - Picked up Wagner withour Fear from the library as well.
post #94 of 150
And thanks to suggestions made here I have just received the 1935/38 Die Walkure with Hotter and Melchior from Naxos. This has been a very helpful thread.

A_Sr.
post #95 of 150
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Originally Posted by Absorbine_Sr
And thanks to suggestions made here I have just received the 1935/38 Die Walkure with Hotter and Melchior from Naxos. This has been a very helpful thread.

A_Sr.
While I am sure that some will differ, that particular release is a favorite of mine. While Melchior is clearly the main attraction, I am happy to hear Hotter in good voice. His Solti Die Walküre is not the greatest showing, and in "Nun zäume dein Roß, reisige Maid," his strain is obvious. One could make a dramatic argument as to the acceptability of that condition, but it would be best saved for Siegfried.
post #96 of 150
Sorry to drag this [excellent] thread up, but I made a "minor" discovery that I thought would fit in here.

I picked up an old book called "Ring Resounding" last week - anyone read this? Its a great read which has enhanced my enjoyment of the Solti recording and the recording process in general.

The book is written by some guy who was close to the production of Solti's Ring and its a kind of diary, I guess, about the process. Just fascinating. Doesn't shed a great deal of light on the music itself, so don't think it adds much commentary there.

But I highly recommend picking this up to add to your appreciation of how difficult a task this recording was.
post #97 of 150
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Originally Posted by Vicious Tyrant
Sorry to drag this [excellent] thread up, but I made a "minor" discovery that I thought would fit in here.

I picked up an old book called "Ring Resounding" last week - anyone read this? Its a great read which has enhanced my enjoyment of the Solti recording and the recording process in general.

The book is written by some guy who was close to the production of Solti's Ring and its a kind of diary, I guess, about the process. Just fascinating. Doesn't shed a great deal of light on the music itself, so don't think it adds much commentary there.

But I highly recommend picking this up to add to your appreciation of how difficult a task this recording was.
I think Ring Resounding was written by John Culshaw, the producer of the Solti cycle. It is a really excellent window into the production of what is still one of the top three or four cycles on disc. I also recommend the video of The Golden Ring. It is another really outstanding look into the production of the set.
post #98 of 150
Culshaw also wrote a second book, Putting the Record Straight, which is also highly enlightening and entertaining. Puts new perspectives on the recording business of the 60s that will make you listen to recordings in a whole new light.
post #99 of 150
I love Wagner. I have about 5-10 recordings of every major opera. Here are my favorite mono and stero recordings:

MONO
Holländer. 1944 - Krauss - Hotter, Ursuleac, Hann - München
Tannhäuser. 1955 - Cluytens - Windgassen, Brouwenstijn, DFD - Bayreuth
Lohengrin. 1954 - Jochum - Windgassen, Nilsson, Varnay - Bayreuth
Tristan. 1952 - Furtwängler - Suthaus, Flagstad, Fischer-Dieskau - London
Meistersinger. 1956 - Kempe - Frantz, Kusche, Schock - Berlin
Parsifal. 1951 - Knappertsbusch - London, Weber, Windgassen, Mödl - Bayreuth
die Walküre. 1954 - Furtwängler - Frantz, Mödl, Suthaus, Rysanek - Wien
Götterdämmerung. 1951 - Knappertsbusch - Varnay, Aldenhoff, Weber - Bayreuth
Der Ring. 1956 - Knappertsbusch - Hotter, Varnay, Windgassen, Neidlinger - Bayreuth

STEREO
Holländer. 1968 - Klemperer - Adam, Silja, Talvela - London
Tannhäuser. 1970 - Solti - Kollo, Dernesch, Braun - Wien
Lohengrin. 1962 - Kempe - Thomas, Grümmer, Ludwig - Wien
Tristan. 1966 - Böhm - Windgassen, Nilsson, Ludwig, Wächter - Bayreuth
Meistersinger. 1970 - Karajan - Adam, Evans, Kollo - Dresden
Parsifal. 1962 - Knappertsbusch - London, Hotter, Thomas, Dalis - Bayreuth
Rheingold. 1967 - Karajan - Fischer-Dieskau, Kelemen, Stolze - Berlin
die Walküre. 1967 - Böhm - Adam, Nilsson, King, Rysanek - Bayreuth
Siegfried. 1962 - Solti - Windgassen, Stolze, Nilsson - Wien
Götterdämmerung. 1989 - Levine - Behrens, Goldberg, Salminen - New York
Der Ring. 1958-65 - Solti - Hotter, Nilsson, Windgassen, Neidlinger - Wien
post #100 of 150
Time to revive this thread, as a "new" Ring is coming: the legendary 1955 Bayreuth live Ring with J. Keilberth at the helm is being released this year on Testament, starting with Siegfried this month. The other three coming in March, May and July. This is the first real stereo version, Decca withheld it in favor of the Solti set that would occupy them for 10 more years. Haven't heard it yet, but am champing at the bit to strap on the headphones, grab a glass of Jaegermeister, and wallow in it. The singers are the like of which we'll probably never have again. Windgassen in his prime! I can't wait. Here's the site: http://www.testament.uk.com

I hope several of you acquire it so we can argue about it.
post #101 of 150
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Originally Posted by mbhaub
Time to revive this thread, as a "new" Ring is coming: the legendary 1955 Bayreuth live Ring with J. Keilberth at the helm is being released this year on Testament, starting with Siegfried this month. The other three coming in March, May and July. This is the first real stereo version, Decca withheld it in favor of the Solti set that would occupy them for 10 more years. Haven't heard it yet, but am champing at the bit to strap on the headphones, grab a glass of Jaegermeister, and wallow in it. The singers are the like of which we'll probably never have again. Windgassen in his prime! I can't wait. Here's the site: http://www.testament.uk.com

I hope several of you acquire it so we can argue about it.
Exciting! This is one that has sort of lurked in the mists of live Ring cycles for fifty years. I am happy to see it given the Testament treatment. I do, though, wish that they had started with Rheingold, as Siegfried is my least-favorite Ring opera. However, it is still in my top-ten favorites.
post #102 of 150
Good news but with Testament releasing it we can expect astronomical prices. I'm betting about $60 per opera.
post #103 of 150
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Originally Posted by zotjen
Good news but with Testament releasing it we can expect astronomical prices. I'm betting about $60 per opera.
That goes without saying, especially with Testament. How they make any money is beyond me.
post #104 of 150
Yeah, but where else are you going to get it? It's a seller's market in these wonderful, almost forgotten recordings. And I agree with you about the order: why, oh why, didn't they start with Rheingold??? Nonetheless, I'll save my pennies and order each and every one. Occasionally, Testament's show up at Berkshire, but I bet this one won't. I also bet they can sell a ton of these at Bayreuth.
post #105 of 150
Thread Starter 
Yeah, and I understand that there are somewhat unique additional costs with Testament releases, but 65-70$ for a single opera is a bit much. The whole '56 Knappertsbusch cycle on Music and Arts is only 65$ at Arkiv.

In any event, I'll buy it, but I'll complain about the price.

I have been really perplexed by release decisions of late. The Warner release of the Barenboim/Kupfer cycle has started with Die Walküre, not Das Rheingold. However, that makes more sense - as Die Walküre is the most popular - than starting with Siegfried. If you aren't going to release all of them at once (a la DG's remaster of the Boulez set), then you should release them in order.
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