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post #1066 of 2007
I have an orignal set of sr325s.

So far, I just refurb'd the cable, since when I aquired them, the wires had come loose in the cans, one joint became scratchy fast. Some really weird space heater usage later, i finally got the damn things open. That metel gets HOT, so when I cleaned and put them back together, I chose to make sure the wire was secure in the plastic driver housing, and then set it up so they can be pulled apart by hand if you really try. For future work of course!

I then began to search for some way to tame some of the harsh upper mids, while adding some bass impact. I tried reversing the bowels, using the bowels to affix other pads, but I had my old broken down MDR v700s that have joints being held together with glue and twistie ties, but still could easily break if not careful, since this was the 2nd time puzzling the little joint pieces together and trying not to lose anything, The pads are nice for on the ear pads. They lasted ten years and show no real significant wear to speak of, and the rest of the headphone you can obviously tell got it's beating when I would carry it around as the portable set, or monitor some of the music I produced, seeing as they have that bass peak and fall off that is perfect for DJ queuing.

I took those, reversed them, so the leather part was what went on the attachment ring on the cans, and then I used the lip of those pads to affix pads for a denon 1001k, or, better even, pads of the Creative Aurvana Live!s. They have better pads than the denons. the only other difference besides earcup shape and material grade. (As an a-side, I ended up modding the aurvanas over the denons, with the mini d2000 mod, as they sound far better than the stock denons now, but with a little extra bass too compared to modded denons.)

So the earpads' lip fit wihin the lip of the underside of the v700 pads. Oy of all the things I have tried, and trust me, I have tried every pad from every phone I own, I have never heard them sound so good. They are far less fatiguing, and this thread gives me some ideas to reduce the original 325s issues further. These are a very respectable set of intimate listening heaphones, and I always enjoy using them. MY current favorate are Beyers, slightly modded, as the velour just sounded bad to me and akg pads seemed to do the trick. For the record, I have tried both beyer and akg pads on the 325s as the bowels will retain a lot of different types and so it can be used as a mounting ring. This is the first time I do not have the bowels on the headphones and prever it that way.

What else can be done, anyone have an original set of 325s? I want to continue to reduce fatgue. I am aware the sound is a bit colored, but that is no bother when am typing this and suddenly i pause because the sound was so real, I thought my wind chimes were actually moving in real life. I just need to tone down the edgyness of the upper mids, and maybe it can't be done, but then again, I have not looked through 70 pages yet!

If I did not have a tubed output buffer, they would probably be more ear shredding. It seems the 325s and above love tubes in the chain. Grados are so simple and yet, effective, much like a tube circuit, it is not ultramodern tech that gives them their signature sound.

I would do a button removal, but they are glued and the glue is on the other side of the grille as well.

Gear mentioned in this thread:

beyerdynamic DT 770 Stereo Headphones
Grado Prestige Series SR125i Headphones
Grado Prestige Series SR325is Headphones
post #1067 of 2007

flat pads

I have had 2 sets of the old 325s and the only thing i found that for me made them listenable was the flat pads that Tod the vinyal junkie sells. Might be worth a try. Or just sell them and buy some Beyer Dt880 which is what i did.
post #1068 of 2007
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Originally Posted by yashu View Post
What else can be done, anyone have an original set of 325s? I want to continue to reduce fatigue.

A Spitzer-modded SR404 I listened to sounded sensationally dark, it was equipped with that kitchen tissue fleece you see on the pic above. I organized that stuff for my MS1K mods, the best I've crossed so far to cure shrillness in the upper registers. The effect is scaleable by the amount of layers you apply.
post #1069 of 2007
So I bought a pair of woodied/metal 225's from charliex who in turn, bought them from the original owner/artisan. Beautiful creation, but the leather band was worn out, the wood was dull and lackluster and the rods holding the drivers were pretty fragile, so I revamped them. I also re-sleeved the mogami cable and re-terminated with a Viablue 1/4" You can see the originals here. http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f10/fs...cabled-457976/ Of course I didn't take before pics, but believe me, they looked pretty beat up and nothing like these pics from the orginal artisan.

Well here's my contribution.













Essentially, everything was touched again. DIY headband with instructions by another head-fier (sorry don't want to look up the exact name at the moment, but excellent tutorial), folded over the rods and soldered, painted glossy black, changed out the rod locks to silver, refinished all woodied pieces, painted the grills glossy black and re-sleeved and re-terminated and re-soldered the leads.

Really diggin them.
-Marty
post #1070 of 2007
Nothing special. Bought this used last week for $80 and been enjoying it WAY too much! Pandora Radio on the iphone sounds very good, fun, detailed and engaging with just the right amount of bass for me. I listen from anything from trance to adult contemporary to classic rock to top 40 pop to hard rock to metal. This bad boy does it all well and the iphone 3GS powers it with no problem at all. I'm usually at 60-75% of the volume and it's plenty.

Just finished adding metal mesh grills and sanded off the silver letterings to a smooth flat finish. Ordered the HD414 along with the PX100 pads already. Maybe a recabling later. Looked at some wood cups but it's not worth the cost for these inexpensive cans plus who knows what's the return on investment besides some gorgeous looking phones. I'm new to Grados and this forum but love and enjoying modding as with all my other toys.




Update 3/23/2010...

My simple DIY driver and driver enclosure damping with felt adhesive pads that I cut out. I can really tell highs are much smoother and less harsh. Electric guitars especially in rock and metal music is smoother and crunchier. Resonance is lessened a small bit and sounds are more precise and to the point, almost as if instruments sound a little more 3D or binaural. I would call it better imaging and resolution. I can place different sounds,vocals, instruments in space more precisely. Volume sounds lessened a little though...maybe about 5-10% or so. Not sure why. Maybe less resonance and reverb within the enclosure? Pink Floyd and progressive trance sounds amazing! Of course, it's depends on the music source and recording. Overall, I like this cheap, basically free mod.

post #1071 of 2007
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Originally Posted by mlantinen View Post

Well here's my contribution.

Lo-ve-ly, Marty!!

(Except those braided fork thingies, but those are are still a good solution under sheer technical aspects)
post #1072 of 2007
post #1073 of 2007
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Originally Posted by outlawdon View Post
Nothing special. Bought this used last week for $80 and been enjoying it WAY too much! Pandora Radio on the iphone sounds very good, fun, detailed and engaging with just the right amount of bass for me. I listen from anything from trance to adult contemporary to classic rock to top 40 pop to hard rock to metal. This bad boy does it all well and the iphone 3GS powers it with no problem at all. I'm usually at 60-75% of the volume and it's plenty.

Just finished adding metal mesh grills and sanded off the silver letterings to a smooth flat finish. Ordered the HD414 along with the PX100 pads already. Maybe a recabling later. Looked at some wood cups but it's not worth the cost for these inexpensive cans plus who knows what's the return on investment besides some gorgeous looking phones. I'm new to Grados and this forum but love and enjoying modding as with all my other toys.




Update 3/23/2010...

My simple DIY driver and driver enclosure damping with felt adhesive pads that I cut out. I can really tell highs are much smoother and less harsh. Electric guitars especially in rock and metal music is smoother and crunchier. Resonance is lessened a small bit and sounds are more precise and to the point, almost as if instruments sound a little more 3D or binaural. Volume sounds lessened a little though...maybe about 5-10% or so. Not sure why. Maybe less resonance and reverb within the enclosure? Pink Floyd and progressive trance sounds amazing! Of course, it's depends on the music source and recording. Overall, I like this cheap, basically free mod.

I did this, but with another material and experienced the same results: a smoother, clearer, enhanced HF. I salute you for making a great mod out of a minimal investment. The use of green felt was brilliant.
post #1074 of 2007
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Originally Posted by Bilavideo View Post
I did this, but with another material and experienced the same results: a smoother, clearer, enhanced HF. I salute you for making a great mod out of a minimal investment. The use of green felt was brilliant.
I've posted about this album in the music forum but I am so addicted to it I want everyone to hear it. It is revamped by elite force. Bilavideo, it's a good trancy breakbeats album and damn it is good. Your hf2s will love it aswell.
post #1075 of 2007
Ooooh, I think I'm gonna have to try out the felt mod. Having issues with some harshness and sibilance.
post #1076 of 2007
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Originally Posted by mlantinen View Post
Ooooh, I think I'm gonna have to try out the felt mod. Having issues with some harshness and sibilance.
Let us know how it turns out for you. Good luck!
post #1077 of 2007
I'd love to hear more opinions on this mod too .
post #1078 of 2007

Tooooo easy, drill sergeant

I have two super-easy mods, and another one I believe a careful novice could handle, that I have come up with over the years, after owning 5 pairs of fabulous Grados.

I will just submit the first one right now, and grab my tools and supplies later on, lay it out for you when I feel brave enough to open up my brand new, luscious RS-2s for the camera.


> This is so simple, it hardly qualifies as a mod - it's really just a tip/trick - but I have not seen anyone else suggest a similar one. I have to say that I believe the benefit of this will be something that must be judged subjectively and may differ from person to person; to me the improvement is worthwhile. At any rate, it requires little effort, has 0 risks and is reversible.

One of the most common complaints from Grado owners is "Yeah, they sound awesome...but those ear pads are rough after a while." People have come up with some cool mods for converting the stock pads from SR-80s on up into comfy cups. It facilitates hours-on-end listening enjoyment without the fatigue and irritation.


This trick will not provide as profound a transformation as grafting some nice socks to foam, but:

1) Toss your stock pads in the laundry. You want to be sure that they get agitated thoroughly throughout the wash cycle and not just float on top, so stuff an article of clothing through the hole in each pad or otherwise ensure that there's gonna be some friction goin' on. Wait till you have plenty of laundry to do and run them through a few loads.

2) Dunk the pads in a solution of water and liquid fabric softener - just a little softener, mixed 20:1, even 30:1 or 40:1 should be fine. If the water is relatively hard where you live, you may get even better results if you have some distilled water on hand. Wring out thoroughly.

3) Let 'em dry and you're good to go. There may be a little lint clinging to them. I've not had to, but a piece of adhesive tape will take care of that quickly. You should now have factory Grado pads that are at least a little softer and less scratchy to your earlobes, for little time and money.

post #1079 of 2007
just posted this a few minutes ago but not here. So get some flats and comfies from ttvj. Slice the comfie pad in half and place them on top of the flat pad. They are almost the same size as the bowls but they feel really nice on my ears.
post #1080 of 2007
I second the above idea. In fact, as I write this, I am listening to my HF2 which I modded with flats I also modded by enlarging the inner ring (for more HF) and the bottoms of bowls (the harder surface provides better bass). The few millimeters of ear/driver distance bring them just short of full-bowl length, but the flats-plus-bottoms sound better. The HF is fine, with the right amount of distance to keep the mids from being overwhelming, while the bass is terrific.
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Gear mentioned in this thread:

beyerdynamic DT 770 Stereo Headphones
Grado Prestige Series SR125i Headphones
Grado Prestige Series SR325is Headphones
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