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I'm sure this a stupid comment, so blast away at my idiocy... but if all they need (probably) is another coat or two of acrylic, why can't I do this sort of thing myself?
Obviously, UE can put on the acrylic professionally with precision equipment, but I would think that a coat of any kind of clear nail polish would give me a "feel" for whether the seal is improved. Isn't nail polish easy to remove? Where are our girl-fi members?
Anyway, I'm only half-serious. If this is what they need and I need to give them up for a while and pay for shipping back and forth, then so be it. I'm not going to mess around with them if it could cause any damage.
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Originally Posted by Wmcmanus
Thanks guys!
I'm sure this a stupid comment, so blast away at my idiocy... but if all they need (probably) is another coat or two of acrylic, why can't I do this sort of thing myself? Obviously, UE can put on the acrylic professionally with precision equipment, but I would think that a coat of any kind of clear nail polish would give me a "feel" for whether the seal is improved. Isn't nail polish easy to remove? Where are our girl-fi members? Anyway, I'm only half-serious. If this is what they need and I need to give them up for a while and pay for shipping back and forth, then so be it. I'm not going to mess around with them if it could cause any damage. |
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Originally Posted by Wmcmanus
I've read with interest over the past several months about various Sensa and UE owners who have sent their custom molded IEM's back in to be "refit", but have always wondered:
1) How do you know that your custom IEM's don't fit properly? 2) How do you pinpoint why they don't fit properly? 3) How do you know where, precisely, on the IEM the fit issues reside? 4) How do you know how much to instruct Sensa or UE to add or subtract from the molds to make them fit right? |
More subtle however, would be a decent fit, but pain and pressure in certain spots after a short amount of time.
2) In my case, there were specific pressure spots, for example, the bottom bend of the sound tube was digging into my ear. Also the bulge that sits in the big concave part of my ear, was creating a pain spot.
3) Pretty much answered in number 2.
4) Sensa uses their best judgment based on your communication with them by phone. Also, seeing the audiologist who took the molds will allow you to point specifically to the spot on the iem that is causing the trouble. I brought my iem to vicky and told her my problems. She actually put a little dot on the iem with a pen, where the pressure points were. Sensa basically just kinda widdled down these spots, alleviating the problem. I also had the length of the sound tubes reduced, as they were scraping against my inner ear after the initial fit. (Be careful not to reduce the sound tube length too much, as the ability to attain a decent seal may be lost.)
Every time the issue of custom iems and fit comes up, i always feel compelled to express the importance of not expecting a perfect, bionic fit. The whole business of custom iems involves meticulous construction processes that simply will not result in our idealized hopes of "the perfect fit."
that being said, my sensas fit VERY well and can many times hardly be felt sitting in my ears.
if you're in the market for custom iems, stop waiting, and go buy some now.
they're super cool.
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You're right about not being able to expect a bionic fit. My only issue, really, is the isolation factor. The comfort and sound are both superb.
Too late to go back to the audiologist. He's in San Diego and I'm in Cayman! It was the oddest thing. I was heading there for a head-fi meet and looked up who UE recommended in the area. I figured I'd kill two birds with one stone. So I show up in the guy's office, and immediately notice his "shingles" hanging of the wall, and sure enough, he and I went to the same college as undergrads (Illinois State). When I asked him about it, he said "Ya, but I'm from this little place upstate. I'm sure you've never heard of it... Peru, IL." Crazy! I'm from Oglesby, IL, 5 minutes away, and his dad has been one of my dad's insurance customers for 30+ years! As Steven Wright would say, "It's a small world... but I'd hate to have to paint it!"
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Bump for an old but interesting thread about custom IEM fit issues. I wonder if Wmcmanus ever did have the acrylic layer added to his IEMs? This was a long time ago...
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This was a long time ago, and there is more to the story now. I think the answer is no. I'm not sure though. I gave my UE-10s to a UE rep (who no longer works for the company at this point) who as in attendance and working at their table at the San Jose CanJam. I didn't get his name at the time, but did have him write his Head-Fi name on one of my losing raffle tickets. He said it would take a week or so, and then I'd get them back and chances are they would fit just fine.
I'll bet it was at least a year before I stumbled across that raffle ticket again, and then suddenly I did a face palm! "Dang!! That's what happened to my UE-10s!!!" I can't remember now if I thought that I had lost them, or if I just plain forgot I ever had them, or if I was just in zombieland. So I sent an email to the same guy at UE, and of course, no reply. Then I called and explained the situation, was told that he no longer worked there, and that they "would look" for my UE-10s.
At that point, I figured they were long gone and that it was my own dang fault, but sure enough, I got an email the next day from someone at UE saying, "They're ready to be shipped back to you..." Well, ya!!! They had been sitting there for over a year. I would hope they would be ready by then. So I paid them whatever the shipping costs were, maybe $15 or so, and my UE10s came back all cleaned up and new looking. Thus, I figured that they must have done something with them. But when I put them in, they still fit pretty much the way they always did.
My guess is that they probably added a couple of layers of acrylic, but so much time had passed, so I really have no way of knowing for sure.
I've since gravitated much more so to my JH-13s, but do use the UE-10s from time to time. I pretty much have the same fit issues with both pairs, so maybe one day I'll pay a visit to UE's offices in Irvine or go to see Jerry in Florida and have them tweaked. Until then, I'll leave well enough alone.
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Wow. That's a much more interesting reply than I was expecting. One year? And they still had them... Dang!
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